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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's not like she said that she SUPPORTED that rationale at the time. Besides, you forgot that she concluded that statement by saying "And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong."

    However, that *is* the best effect of abortion IMO. Reducing the birth rate among the poor will help keep down the costs for entitlement programs, reduce crime, protect the environment, and generally improve the quality of life for Americans.
    Seems like you're saying that Justice Ginsberg's first perception was correct--even if she didn't support the rationale.

    How many rounds of the eugenics debate must we have before we acknowledge the fundamental and unequivocal evil of the concept?

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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

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    There really needs to be a way of "retiring" Justices who have outlived their effectiveness.
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's not like she said that she SUPPORTED that rationale at the time. Besides, you forgot that she concluded that statement by saying "And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong."
    Lots of former Einsatzgruppen members changed their mind about the Holocuast since WW2, also.
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Why don't we just kill the poor, that too would keep down the cost of entitlements.

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    Uhh because that would require, you know, killing the poor.
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm sorry you think it's more humane to kill babies then to be against cradle to grave socialism.
    If you're against cradle-to-grave socialism, then reducing the birth rate of the poor should be a top priority for you. Who do you think are the main recipients of many social programs?
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

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    Why don't we just kill the poor, that too would keep down the cost of entitlements.
    The Liberal Democrats would lose too many votes. The objective is to create more poor people.
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Kandahar, as long as we keep paying poor Mommas more in Welfare entitlements for each child they have, I don't think it is going to quite work that way in actual fact.
    Well reducing the birth rate among the poor will cut down on those welfare entitlements, won't it?

    I'm not sure which point I made you are disputing...
    Do you deny that fewer poor people means lower costs for social programs?
    Do you deny that fewer poor people means less crime?
    Do you deny that fewer people (rich OR poor) means less strain on the environment?
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you're against cradle-to-grave socialism, then reducing the birth rate of the poor should be a top priority for you. Who do you think are the main recipients of many social programs?
    You mean like..... take money away from mothers on welfare who keep having one baby after another?

    Maybe take the kids away after 1?

    How do you get the poor to have fewer kids if you pay them more for each one?

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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Seems like you're saying that Justice Ginsberg's first perception was correct--even if she didn't support the rationale.

    How many rounds of the eugenics debate must we have before we acknowledge the fundamental and unequivocal evil of the concept?
    So are you opposed to birth control as well? We're just wasting our time promoting birth control in Africa, right? Who cares if the population is doubling every generation, causing total environmental and economic collapse?
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    Re: Justice Ginsburg Says She Originally Thought Roe v. Wade Was Designed to Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Lots of former Einsatzgruppen members changed their mind about the Holocuast since WW2, also.
    She never said she supported Roe v Wade for that reason in the first place, only that that's what she thought the justification was.
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