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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Sigh, should people under the age of 18 be making, what you consider, a "living wage"?

    I don't believe anybody should be exploited, whether they be sixteen or sixty.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    I don't believe anybody should be exploited, whether they be sixteen or sixty.
    What's worse, is when you are forced to pay someone more than their labor is worth. Thats exploitation.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    I don't believe anybody should be exploited, whether they be sixteen or sixty.
    So if I decided to work a job I could just as easily pass up, and can quit at any time, I'm being exploited if the people I consciously chose to work for aren't giving me exactly what I want?

    And yet it's not exploiting businesses to force them to pay their laborers more than what they're worth?

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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    I don't believe anybody should be exploited, whether they be sixteen or sixty.
    How is someone being exploited?

    Does someone working part time as a cashier at a supermarket deserve 30k a year?
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Because paying people a living wage to be a Burger flipper will hardly encourage them to become anything but. It's called unskilled labor, and it should be paid for accordingly.

    If it sucks at the bottom, there is an impetus to improve your lot in life. If it's comfortable enough at the bottom, why bother? Sure some people will still want to be doctors or policemen, but how many high school kids these days just look for a job right out of high school? Alot of them, but at least they choose to work in factories or offices(where they get paid much higher than minimum wage) which requires the development of a skill. If those same kids could make a living wage being a gas station attendant, or a burger flipper, why would they want to put themselves in a situation where they had to develop a skill? Some jobs should simply need to be transient in nature. They won't be, if we have the living wage forced upon us. We don't want career gas station attendants or Dairy Queen employees.

    Nobody advocated equal wages for doctors and burger bar workers, though I don't believe the differential should be anywhere near as great as is it, nor do I condone the obscene wages of some of those in the corporate world and banking (whose greed and stupidity has landed us all in it.) Burger flippers and gas station attendants deserve a living wage and in a civilised society, shouldn't need to seek a second or third job to make ends meet. That such a situation exists in the world's largest economy is testament to the failures of your system.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Nobody advocated equal wages for doctors and burger bar workers, though I don't believe the differential should be anywhere near as great as is it, nor do I condone the obscene wages of some of those in the corporate world and banking (whose greed and stupidity has landed us all in it.) Burger flippers and gas station attendants deserve a living wage and in a civilised society, shouldn't need to seek a second or third job to make ends meet. That such a situation exists in the world's largest economy is testament to the failures of your system.
    Protip: don't be a unskilled wage earner forever.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    What's worse, is when you are forced to pay someone more than their labor is worth. Thats exploitation.
    What their labour is worth is subjective. If you don't agree with the minimum limit set by the state, you're not forced to be an employer.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Nobody advocated equal wages for doctors and burger bar workers, though I don't believe the differential should be anywhere near as great as is it, nor do I condone the obscene wages of some of those in the corporate world and banking (whose greed and stupidity has landed us all in it.) Burger flippers and gas station attendants deserve a living wage and in a civilised society, shouldn't need to seek a second or third job to make ends meet. That such a situation exists in the world's largest economy is testament to the failures of your system.
    You know what's worse than having two or more jobs? Having no job at all. The higher the minimum wage, the more cases of that there are.

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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So if I decided to work a job I could just as easily pass up, and can quit at any time, I'm being exploited if the people I consciously chose to work for aren't giving me exactly what I want?

    And yet it's not exploiting businesses to force them to pay their laborers more than what they're worth?

    Many people are forced into jobs paying a pittance because there is nothing else available to them and they don't have the means to up sticks and move location. Those jobs also need to be done by somebody since they are vital to society. That's why a decent minimum wage is an esssential of a civilised society.
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    Re: Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You know what's worse than having two or more jobs? Having no job at all. The higher the minimum wage, the more cases of that there are.
    The British experience proved the opposite.
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