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Schumer: Immigration bill to be ready by Labor Day

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Hopefully there is enough patriotic Americans in office to see that this "immigration bill fails.

The Associated Press: Schumer: Immigration bill to be ready by Labor Day
WASHINGTON (AP) — The lead Democrat steering an immigration overhaul through the Senate said Wednesday he expects to have a bill ready by Labor Day that is more generous to highly skilled immigrant workers than those who are lower skilled and is tough on future waves of illegal immigration.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Sen. Chuck Schumer said an immigration bill can be done by the end of the year or early next year that works out disagreements between labor and business interests on the flow of legal foreign workers.

"I think we'll have a good bill by Labor Day," said Schumer, D-N.Y. "I think the fundamental building blocks are in place to do comprehensive immigration reform."

Schumer said the way to get the bill done is to be very tough on future waves of illegal immigration. He declared himself pro-immigration and said the U.S. should encourage legal immigration and find some kind of path for people now here to find a way to legal citizenship.

"We have a shortage maybe of engineers here or Ph.D's in physics, but we probably don't have a shortage of people who can do construction work," Schumer said.

The AFL-CIO and the Change to Win labor unions earlier this year announced their support for immigration reform, which they have opposed in the past.

But the unions' continued opposition to increases in visas for foreign workers is at odds with the demand by business for legal foreign workers in industries ranging from high-technology to agriculture.

"I think one of the ways to bridge it is to look at the different areas of labor and where there are shortages and where there are not and where just workers are being brought in for exploitive purposes — broadly put meaning just get lower wages — rather than having a shortage," Schumer said. "I think if you look at each broad field you can see that one size does not fit all."

Schumer's office has met to dyscuss his bill with Compete America, a coalition pushing for more visas for foreign workers. Members of the group are skeptical of a labor proposal for an appointed commission to set limits on visas and green cards given to legal residents, said Robert Hoffman, an in-house lobbyist for Oracle, a software company and member of Compete America.

Ana Avendano, AFL-CIO's director of immigration policy, said Schumer's "one size doesn't fit all" view is shared by labor. "We want employers to have workers they need, but the key is determining when there is a real need, not one employers make up when they import temporary workers."

Earlier Wednesday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said beginning Sept. 8, businesses wanting federal contracts would have to use E-Verify, a Web-based system, to check whether their employees are legally working in the U.S. The Bush and Obama administrations had delayed implementing the rule.

The Senate voted for a proposal to make the E-Verify system permanent as it debated a spending bill for the Homeland Security Department.

The department also said it is abandoning a Bush administration plan to force employers to fire workers who can't resolve a mismatch between their Social Security numbers don't match their names. The administration said it would come up with a new rule.
 
Hopefully there is enough patriotic Americans in office to see that this "immigration bill fails.

So if some one disagrees with you on this issue they are "unpatriotic". Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
 
So if some one disagrees with you on this issue they are "unpatriotic". Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

It is unpatriotic to give 20 million plus invaders amnesty instead of kicking them to the back of the line. Those in office have no business tossing the salads of those have no respect for our sovereignty.
 
The Democrats are going to need all those extra votes.
 
It is unpatriotic to give 20 million plus invaders amnesty instead of kicking them to the back of the line. Those in office have no business tossing the salads of those have no respect for our sovereignty.
Seems like it would make more sense to change the system in a way that would reduce the length of the line and remove the temptation for not using the system.

But I guess that's unpatriotic of me to even suggest ...
 
It is unpatriotic to give 20 million plus invaders amnesty instead of kicking them to the back of the line. Those in office have no business tossing the salads of those have no respect for our sovereignty.

They are not invaders. See, I am firmly against amnesty. I think if you are willing to break this countries laws, you should expect to be punished, and should never be granted citizenship, or even be allowed to spend time in our country(outside of maybe prison). I am pretty hardcore on this. I don't have room to bend on this issue. I see no room to compromise. If you are in the country illegally, you are a criminal, not an immigrant.

However, your over the top rhetoric and namecalling make the rest of us who agree with you on the issue look bad, and you hurt our cause.
 
Im all for making the legal immigration process a little more immigrant friendly but I am not ok with granting millions of illegal immigrants legal status.

They are only encouraging lawlessness. If enough people break the law the system will choose the easier path and overlook it.
 
Illegal immigration is promoted by inequitable international wage differentials exacerbated by trade liberalization that generates economic benefits that accrue overwhelmingly to the American financial class. The implementation of fair trade and the decriminalization of border crossing should alleviate that to some extent, but the aforementioned financial class benefits from the promulgation of propagandic misinformation, and is thus in favor of continuing to spread lies about the "problems" and "solutions" as they pertain to illegal immigration. And you know who runs the show.
 
Seems like it would make more sense to change the system in a way that would reduce the length of the line and remove the temptation for not using the system.

But I guess that's unpatriotic of me to even suggest ...

What would make the most sense, IMO, is to not inject 20 million more workers into an economy when we already have an unemployment rate of 9.5% and climbing.
 
What would make the most sense, IMO, is to not inject 20 million more workers into an economy when we already have an unemployment rate of 9.5% and climbing.
Right. Rather, we should deport all 20 million of them overnight. That should do wonderful things for our economy!
 
Right. Rather, we should deport all 20 million of them overnight. That should do wonderful things for our economy!

Please don't exaggerate. We should deport illegal immigrants as we catch them. We should police for them. They are criminals. None of this will result in 20 million people being deported overnight.
 
Please don't exaggerate. We should deport illegal immigrants as we catch them. We should police for them. They are criminals. None of this will result in 20 million people being deported overnight.
Why should we divert police resources away from finding rapists and murderers to catch those productive members of the workforce who are guilty of nothing more than an administrative offense?
 
Right. Rather, we should deport all 20 million of them overnight. That should do wonderful things for our economy!

Just think of all the jobs that would open up. When Swift was raided in 2006 and several hundred illegals arrested, there were people lined up to apply for the new job openings.

You're right. That will do wonderful things for the economy.
 
Please don't exaggerate. We should deport illegal immigrants as we catch them. We should police for them. They are criminals. None of this will result in 20 million people being deported overnight.

Nor will it result in 20 million illegal immigrants ever being effectively deported, since they will attempt to return if domestic conditions if their homelands have not changed. Domestic conditions need to change here too. Firstly, we need to eliminate excessive demand for low-skilled labor, and we should not permit public policy to be dictated by a financial class that effectively sucks the life out of Mexico through excessive trade liberalization, thereby forcing immigration.
 
Why should we divert police resources away from finding rapists and murderers to catch those productive members of the workforce who are guilty of nothing more than an administrative offense?

We wouldn't be diverting anything. We have immigration cops and it's, like, their job to enforce immigration laws. Border Patrol, ICE, INS; it's what they do.
 
Why should we divert police resources away from finding rapists and murderers to catch those productive members of the workforce who are guilty of nothing more than an administrative offense?

Where did I suggest taking any resources away from catching rapists and murderers? I did not in fact. I also do not attempt to dismiss people committing a fairly serious crime by calling it "an administrative offense".
 
Nor will it result in 20 million illegal immigrants ever being effectively deported, since they will attempt to return if domestic conditions if their homelands have not changed. Domestic conditions need to change here too. Firstly, we need to eliminate excessive demand for low-skilled labor, and we should not permit public policy to be dictated by a financial class that effectively sucks the life out of Mexico through excessive trade liberalization, thereby forcing immigration.

Illegal immigration is not the fault of any government, but the fault of the people who chose to break laws to improve their situation. There is no excuse for being a criminal.
 
Just think of all the jobs that would open up. When Swift was raided in 2006 and several hundred illegals arrested, there were people lined up to apply for the new job openings.

You're right. That will do wonderful things for the economy.
Here's a better idea: do away with minimum-wage laws and all the taxes employers are required to pay when hiring workers. That would make the desire to hire strictly illegal immigrants go away, not to mention doing wonders for the economy. It's also a hell of a lot simpler than the big government solution of apprehending, trying and transporting people who will be back here again a week later.
 
Schumer is such a ****ing putz, this "immigration" bill is just another form of amnesty.

I feel it about garnering illicit votes and labor cash from lobbies.

Concern for America or its security does not seem to enter into the equation.
 
Here's a better idea: do away with minimum-wage laws and all the taxes employers are required to pay when hiring workers. That would make the desire to hire strictly illegal immigrants go away, not to mention doing wonders for the economy. It's also a hell of a lot simpler than the big government solution of apprehending, trying and transporting people who will be back here again a week later.

When you say, "taxes", are you referring to medicare and SS matching that employers have to do?

Doing away with minimum wage laws isn't going to fix anything. People just aren't going to work for 3$ per hour and I don't blame them. They can make more than that on welfare, which is what all the new American citizens are going to figure out and be on welare quicker than you flick flies off of ****.
 
What would make the most sense, IMO, is to not inject 20 million more workers into an economy when we already have an unemployment rate of 9.5% and climbing.

And how many of that 9.5% is really, honestly going to work construction, or some other similar job?
 
And how many of that 9.5% is really, honestly going to work construction, or some other similar job?

Let's create some jobs for them and find out. Most of the increase is made up of blue collar workers, so I would say that most of them would work those jobs.

But, you can't look at it with tunnel vision. You must also consider all the support industries of those construction jobs that will benefit.
 
Where did I suggest taking any resources away from catching rapists and murderers? I did not in fact.
There isn't enough people at ICE to even make a dent in the problem. Therefore you must use state and local law enforcement
I also do not attempt to dismiss people committing a fairly serious crime by calling it "an administrative offense".
So serious it's not even a felony?
 
Let's create some jobs for them and find out. Most of the increase is made up of blue collar workers, so I would say that most of them would work those jobs.

But, you can't look at it with tunnel vision. You must also consider all the support industries of those construction jobs that will benefit.
Right, and somewhere in this thread (I'm guessing in the OP, in the copypasta'd article) it was said that engineers and all that stuff are needed. But also, how many of that 9.5% have the education/experience required to work those high level jobs? How many of the illegal immigrants have the education/experience required? Only some kind of education reform (maybe) can fix that issue, and not so much a lame "amnesty" bill.
 
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