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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Actually not, but don't let the facts get in your way.


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    Quick quick chicken little better increases taxation on gasoline, coal, and electricity, the poor aren't hurting enough yet.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The whole "the sky is falling" stuff was made up completely. The truth is that there isn't enough research for us to fully understand global weather dynamics. Now you can ask rationally do we have an effect on the environment. And I think clearly the answer to that is yes. Our presence and actions do have some effect. What degree is that effect? It's unknown. It's not 100% though, we just can't influence global trends to that extent. But I would bet dollars to donuts that it's not 0% either. If I had to guess, I would say we probably have a 5-10% tops effect. That doesn't mean we shouldn't worry or shouldn't do things to lessen our effect. But it doesn't mean we need to go overboard and chicken little it up either. Continue to push new, green technologies and investigate alternate energy sources and such. Mankind has not come this far through stagnation, we should always be looking to improve upon ourselves.
    I agree with this whole heartedly. That's why it's imperative for the whole AGW mass hysteria nonsense to be exposed for what it is. Al Gore is a fraud and a disgrace to science. The man was awarded a damn Nobel Prize for Chrissakes. When science becomes politicized by ass-hats like Gore then we're in real big trouble. Politics has NO PLACE in science. Science is pure and it must remain that way. AGW theory threatens the foundations of scientific objectivity and progress.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Let's not make this about science vs. religion. Let's just concentrate on the giant and massive farce that is AGW theory. We are experiencing a cooling trend in global temperatures that has lasted for approximately eight years now - this is in utter contradiction with the predictions of AGW theory.
    Completely untrue. We have been getting warmer, even despite a La Nina in 2007-08. Seven of the hottest years since the recording of temperature has began (late 1800's) have happened in the 21st century, so that ain't cooling.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Quick quick chicken little better increases taxation on gasoline, coal, and electricity, the poor aren't hurting enough yet.
    You need to work on your debating skillz, cuz that ain't going to convince me.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I have made no such assertion. I merely commented that your separation of science and state is ridiculous and stated how government needs and funds certain scientific programs and even uses the results of scientific query to make laws and regulations in some cases.
    No, that's exactly what you said. You said that you're, "capable of rational and unbiased thought". Want me to link that? Or can we agree that that's exactly what you said? Ok, now, you're making that claim to convince me that you would never make an uninformed, politically motived, monetarily motivated, rational, unbiased decison on anything. Well, we can only take your word for that. You have no way to prove that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why global warming is the farce that it is. We're all supposed to blindly accept the word of a few scientists that it's fact and empty our pockets to pay them to figure out how to stop it. Sounds alot like, "tithing", to me.
    Don't blame the Chicken Littles on science - blame politics. Science is supposed to be objective and unbiased, and when it's implemented properly it is a powerful tool for progress and enlightment; only when ass-lickers like Al Gore and the lunatic leftists get their hands on it does it become a distortion of reality.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I agree with this whole heartedly. That's why it's imperative for the whole AGW mass hysteria nonsense to be exposed for what it is. Al Gore is a fraud and a disgrace to science. The man was awarded a damn Nobel Prize for Chrissakes. When science becomes politicized by ass-hats like Gore then we're in real big trouble. Politics has NO PLACE in science. Science is pure and it must remain that way. AGW theory threatens the foundations of scientific objectivity and progress.
    He won the Nobel Peace Prize, I believe Arafat won that too...which I say is clear indication to how that goes. I think there were quite a few who wanted to cash in on the global warming scare, not many wished to look at the problem rationally. If you look at it rationally, you see there's no reason to declare us all dead. There are good steps to take to refine our technologies, and we can continue to do that. We don't wish to totally ignore our effects either. We just want to take things in rational manner, understand that we could be effecting the system, look into how we can effect that and ways to mitigate those effects. Scare tactics in the end help no one. And bad policy can be made (Kyoto anyone?) because of it. It would behoove us to avoid those sorts of circumstance.
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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Don't blame the Chicken Littles on science - blame politics. Science is supposed to be objective and unbiased, and when it's implemented properly it is a powerful tool for progress and enlightment; only when ass-lickers like Al Gore and the lunatic leftists get their hands on it does it become a distortion of reality.
    I blame both. It's the very reason there's a seperation of church and state. It's why I don't think the president should have a scientific advisor.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Picaro View Post
    Oh, it's definitely billions. Al Gore has already raked in over a $100 million personally, and that's just his personal cut; he'll be a billionaire in just a couple of years, and then there are the university 'research' payoffs to reach the proper 'data interpretations', and then the tax breaks for big Corporations, and the financing of the bonds and IPO's, etc., right on down the line.

    At least that is what they're hoping will happen, but apparently the Cake Eaters have absolutely no idea how bankrupt the peasants are they need to shake down to pay for all of this, like a whole entire upper income demographic as ignorant as Marie Antoinette was when we wondered why there were bread riots in Paris and uttered her famous 'observation'.

    Whether or not global warming is actually real or not is not a concern. We've all been told it is by our Masters, and that's that.
    I believe all the money that Gore has made through his movie and other "environmental" ventures has gone to back to the cause. Really.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Greenpeace activists arrested for banner on Mount Rushmore

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Completely untrue. We have been getting warmer, even despite a La Nina in 2007-08. Seven of the hottest years since the recording of temperature has began (late 1800's) have happened in the 21st century, so that ain't cooling.





    These results flatly contradict the predictions of AGW theory, hence it is bunk.

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