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U.S. food stamp tally up 1.2 million in two months

American, you really need to learn to read before responding.

I even said if you are wanting REFORM, I am all for that. How is that supporting it unabated when I want it to change?

And yes, I know of at least one conservative here that said it would be better to get rid of ALL social programs and stick it into the National Defense budget.
Not from me. Although Constitutionallly, these programs are questionable. I believe in charity more than govt programs.
 
American, you really need to learn to read before responding.

I even said if you are wanting REFORM, I am all for that. How is that supporting it unabated when I want it to change?

And yes, I know of at least one conservative here that said it would be better to get rid of ALL social programs and stick it into the National Defense budget.

I'm not sure who you are referring to but I do feel it would be good to remove every single federal social program.

The more we spend time and energy arguing and electing federal politicians based on this things, the more we ignore the issues we actually formed a national government for.

Most of your emotionally charged examples you used are already decided at the state level - like sexual assault of children.
 
Here's how awesome our SEC regulators are: they are so awesome that they themselves are not continually checked for insider trading violations or conflicts of interest, it operates on the honor system.

Well, we can always appoint someone to regulate the regulaters. Then, someone to regulate the regulater who regulate the regulaters. After that, we'll hire some guys to regulate the regulaters regulating the regulater that regulates the first set of regulaters who regulate the stock market.
 
Yeah those same people that if they could would hire people for slave wages because they were desperate enough just to increase their profits. Yes, it has happened.

Yes, those people are much better off if they're not hired at all.
 
Ahh so then you prove my point that you do not care about your fellow man only the profits he can give you.

Thank you.



Yeah, child labor was so immoral that it happened. Women in prostition was so immoral it happened. Spare me.



If you think there should be no regulation, you are giving the corporations to do what they HAVE DONE PROVEN IN HISTORY.



Tell me what government gets from saying a child under a certain age cannot work in a factory?



No, you just want unregulated capitalism to put children to work and women as whores.


It's amazing how emotional they can get on the Left when they can't counter sound arguments, isn't it?
 
I'm going to have to ask you to prove that.

He can't.

Almost no one works for minimum wage, not even in the hamburger joints.

The minimum wage accomplishes teenage unemployment and excessive goonion wages.
 
The Treasury Department sold the 10-year notes at a yield of 3.365%, well below where it was expected to come, traders said.

well below expected = startling.


....and meth is bad for you

Yes, but the bid to cover was 3.28 i do believe, meaning there was HEAVY demand for the 10 year. The auction was quite a success IMHO....
 
I don't think you understand how money and currency work. When there is a total lack of confidence in the currency, prices for that currency go up and savings in the banks will be depleted by higher prices.

Ya refuse to get it.

I have wheel barrow full of Monopoly Money, aka Federal Reserve Notes aka "dollars". I buy a five-axis CNC machine and start up a business.

Net result:

I have a CNC machine, which is capital, and the seller has monopoly money, which is being devalued.

The US has LOTS of capital.
 
Ya refuse to get it.

I have wheel barrow full of Monopoly Money, aka Federal Reserve Notes aka "dollars". I buy a five-axis CNC machine and start up a business.

Net result:

I have a CNC machine, which is capital, and the seller has monopoly money, which is being devalued.

The US has LOTS of capital.

I think he figured out his mistake when he stopped responding
 
Yes, but the bid to cover was 3.28 i do believe, meaning there was HEAVY demand for the 10 year. The auction was quite a success IMHO....

The heavy demand for a 10 year is precisely what I found startling, abnd goes to show that the doom and gloom is possibly premature.
 
Not from me. Although Constitutionallly, these programs are questionable. I believe in charity more than govt programs.

No, there's no question about it. The federal government isn't allowed to do it.
 
how so what?

Do you think people in charge of regulating are divine or something?

They are equally prone to greed because they are still people.



aaaah....the law.....enforced by men prone to greed, enacted by men prone to greed.


Of course politicians are people and prone to greed. Thing is, they are supposed to represent "the people," and when they don't, should be punished, as the law states. Those who schemed hedge funds did not take anything into consideration apart from thinking about their own personal gains. And they did it legally, because of deregulation.

That is the difference. I know crap about economics, but I can figure this out. Even without talking points.
 
Ya refuse to get it.

I have wheel barrow full of Monopoly Money, aka Federal Reserve Notes aka "dollars". I buy a five-axis CNC machine and start up a business.

Net result:

I have a CNC machine, which is capital, and the seller has monopoly money, which is being devalued.

The US has LOTS of capital.

Actually I know a lot more about it than you do, and if you dare oppose me start a thread in the economics forum and I'll make you look so foolish you'll wish you never spoke up. Go ahead, I ****ing dare you.
 
Actually I know a lot more about it than you do, and if you dare oppose me start a thread in the economics forum and I'll make you look so foolish you'll wish you never spoke up. Go ahead, I ****ing dare you.

:rofl.......................
 
Let's hear it.

im gonna, im gonna smash his arguments down so bad and so logically he's gonna wish he was never even born

liz peeps wants to know whos next
 
There seem to be 2 extremes on this issue:

1) I've got mine, now you get yours, or die. This is not right and is pretty extreme.

But, at the other extreme....

2) Let the government enslave people, because that is what happens with welfare. Malcolm X saw government handouts as a form of slavery, and worked with black communities so that they looked after their own, and those who joined the Muslim movement at that time were given a hand up, not a hand out.

Communities need to work on the local level to help their own people in need. When you give it to the Federal government, the program becomes very bloated, and the real beneficiaries are social workers who have an incentive to keep people dependent on government. That incentive is their job. If they get people off welfare, then they lose their own job in the process.

I am not saying that we should let the hungry die, but the Federal government is not the place for intervention. The government makes it very expensive, and more could be done with a lot less money at the local level. But cities and other local entities are broke. Why? Because the Federal government takes their money and wastes the crap out of it.

There has to be a more sensible solution that will give services more bang for the buck, and it is not at the Federal level that this is going to happen.
 
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There seem to be 2 extremes on this issue:

1) I've got mine, now you get yours, or die. This is not right and is pretty extreme.

It's perfectly right, and not extreme at all. You have to list the corollary:

If you got yours, and you give a ****, then give it all away.

That's the "Put Your Own Damn Money Where Your Mouth Is" Corollary.

It's the foundation garment of the United States.
 
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