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U.S. food stamp tally up 1.2 million in two months

In my world, very few things are forced on people, and never because I hold so much contempt for my fellow man as you do.

There we agree. But what things are forced on people we disagree on. It's not that I hold contempt, I know what completely free corporations would do and that's history my friend. There is a reason why we had to reign in corporations from putting child labor and testing on humans as well as slave labor and feudalism. It's history.

........and I never open debates by telling people if they don't like it to leave. :mrgreen:

Hey I'm just saying if you feel so oppressed and forced, you are free to visit some of the other more free countries out there.

You are the one with the melodrama, I only followed your lead for suggestions :mrgreen:
 
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Sooo?

Does that mean Wal-Mart is EVERYWHERE? Where is Wal-Mart with the average homeless people on the streets? Or the ones that just got layed off and have noway to pay their bills?

Can you say, they got a PR Pump by doing that in New Orleans?

I didn't say corporations don't try to cash out on PR with BIG disasters, but where is Wal-Mart with the average homeless guy starving?

Boy have you bought into the corporate PR. :rofl
And you've bought into the government bull****, using money THAT ISN'T YOURS! Basically you believe in stealing money from people.
 
And you've bought into the government bull****, using money THAT ISN'T YOURS! Basically you believe in stealing money from people.

I've personally seen families benefited from welfare. Families that took the help and then got back on their feet. I've personally been injured and taken workman's comp and gotten back on my feet. I've seen families personally go on welfare for a couple of months, get work and then go off it back on their feet.

It's not buying into it, it does work. You want to eliminate it all.

If you want welfare, unemployment or whatever reform to keep people being on it for 3 generations, I am all for it. But to say we need to get rid of it entirely I call BS. I've seen the good it can do.
 
Yeah they should do the conservative method and leave people on the streets to die without help, that's soooooo much better. :roll:

How 'bout we not kill all those jobs and then worry about the folks who can't work?
 
It's a whole lot less because of social programs. But again, maybe we should just have a mentality of "I've got mine, who gives a **** about anyone else?"

So, instead, we'll make sure that nobody has anything and depends on the government. So much for the right to life, liberty and persuit of happiness.
 
How 'bout we not kill all those jobs and then worry about the folks who can't work?

What jobs are being KILLED? Give examples.
 
The right thing I need to do is make sure me and mine get fat and happy.

Thank you for proving my point.

Your way of thinking says that if child labor makes you money do it. Your way is saying that if women are sex toys and make you money, do it. your way is if you can make your product with slave labor, do it. Your way is that if you have unsafe working conditions and it makes you money, do it.

Government says you are wrong and you will change.

Your way says you are ABLE AND WILLING to take advantage of others.
 
What jobs are being KILLED? Give examples.

Hundreds of thousands of oil and gas industry jobs, for one. How many people have been laid off in the tobacco industry since the smoking bill passed? With those jobs go all the jobs that support them.
 
Thank you for proving my point.

Your way of thinking says that if child labor makes you money do it. Your way is saying that if women are sex toys and make you money, do it. your way is if you can make your product with slave labor, do it. Your way is that if you have unsafe working conditions and it makes you money, do it.

Government says you are wrong and you will change.

Your way says you are ABLE AND WILLING to take advantage of others.

His way says that he has the motivation to get out and make a living for he and his family. Perhaps more people should follow his example instead of suckling on the government tit.
 
His way says that he has the motivation to get out and make a living for he and his family. Perhaps more people should follow his example instead of suckling on the government tit.

His way is doing the same thing as HISTORY HAS SHOWN corpostations as doing.

Good to know you agree with child labor, women being used as sex toys, and unsafe working conditions. It's HISTORY. Look it up and see what UNREGULATED CAPITALISM has done.

UNREGULATED CORPORATIONS ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFITS NOT THE PEOPLE. THIS IS UNDISPUTED, IT'S HISTORY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
 
There we agree. But what things are forced on people we disagree on.

umm....This thread is about Federal Food Stamp assistance, which we apparently disagree on

It's not that I hold contempt, I know what completely free corporations would do and that's history my friend. There is a reason why we had to reign in corporations from putting child labor

I suggest you need a different perspective of that era. The pre-industrial age were hard times for mankind and transformation into a more "civilized society" wasn't going to occur overnight.

The muckrakers - sympathetic to communism of course, loved to focus on the horrid conditions in this cities swelling with migrating workers. Funny how they ignore why the cities were growing so fast - families were voluntarily moving to them because as bad as it was, they represented an improvement over their previous lives.

and testing on humans. It's history.

Now we are back to the fallacy in your arguments. Yes, people can do bad things. Guess what....government is made up of people, and thus, can still do bad things. It's also history that government has performed tests on people that had horrible consequences.

Hey I'm just saying if you feel so oppressed and forced, you are free to visit some of the other more free countries out there.

I was actually just pointing out how you have so little confidence in man that you have to force them to go along with your ideas.

You are the one with the melodrama, I only followed your lead for suggestions :mrgreen:

Again, the melodrama began with you stating the following : Yeah they should do the conservative method and leave people on the streets to die without help
 
His way is doing the same thing as HISTORY HAS SHOWN corpostations as doing.

Good to know you agree with child labor, women being used as sex toys, and unsafe working conditions. It's HISTORY. Look it up and see what UNREGULATED CAPITALISM has done.

UNREGULATED CORPORATIONS ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFITS NOT THE PEOPLE. THIS IS UNDISPUTED, IT'S HISTORY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

Are you saying that the only way for a person to make a living is to use child labor, women as sex toys and work in unsafe working conditions?

Funny! I've been working a long time without any of that and made a damn fine living, until the Libbos took over, that is.

The answer is to regulate capitalism out of existance? That makes a truckload of sense. We can all live on the welfare that you Libbos have created for us.
 
Are you saying that the only way for a person to make a living is to use child labor, women as sex toys and work in unsafe working conditions?

It's how corporations can make MORE money than they do now regulated. That is the point.
 
It's how corporations can make MORE money than they do now regulated. That is the point.

Let's put everyone out of work, then we won't have to worry about coporations making too much money, child labor and unsafe working conditions. And unemployed worker is a safe worker.
 
Are you saying that the only way for a person to make a living is to use child labor, women as sex toys and work in unsafe working conditions?

Funny! I've been working a long time without any of that and made a damn fine living, until the Libbos took over, that is.

The answer is to regulate capitalism out of existance? That makes a truckload of sense. We can all live on the welfare that you Libbos have created for us.

No, but by doing so, one can make a ****load more. Need an example? Look at what happened to Wall Street. Without regulations, greed wins over morality every single time.
 
Thank you for proving my point.

Your point was wrong.

You seem to think that I, and people like me, owe a debt to others. That debt does not exist. Therefore, it is not the "right" thing to force me, via threats of violence, to cough up money to satisfy your own feelings of guilt.

Your way of thinking says that if child labor makes you money do it. Your way is saying that if women are sex toys and make you money, do it. your way is if you can make your product with slave labor, do it. Your way is that if you have unsafe working conditions and it makes you money, do it.

yes, you need to tell me what you think I think so that you can then prove that what you think I think is immoral, and therefore because you've shown that what you think what I think is immoral that I must be immoral.

The only flaw in your argument is that you don't know what I think, you're burning your own little strawman and making yourself feel important.

How wonderful for you.

When you can show what I think by quoting me, then you can begin the long hard and totally impossible battle of trying to show I'm wrong.

Your first task: Prove I owe total strangers a living.

Government says you are wrong and you will change.

No. Government merely says "gimme that money, punk, or we'll plug ya fulla holes". Government often talks like a gangster in a bad movie from the thirties. I don't know why that is.

Your way says you are ABLE AND WILLING to take advantage of others.

Sure. Never give a sucker an even break. So long as I'm not lying, and therefore committing fraud, I do nothing wrong that way.

Then again, I don't use machine guns to get my way.

I'm not a socialist.
 
Hundreds of thousands of oil and gas industry jobs, for one. How many people have been laid off in the tobacco industry since the smoking bill passed? With those jobs go all the jobs that support them.

SPECIFICALLY do not forget the coal miners about to be completely impoverished by the Messiah's Crap&Trade scam.
 
His way is doing the same thing as HISTORY HAS SHOWN corpostations as doing.

My way works, then.

Corporations.....you know, those organizations that produce....oh, what was it the poor need the most?...oh yeah, those organizations that produce...JOBS.

Those evil things.

I like 'em.
 
The answer is to regulate capitalism out of existance? That makes a truckload of sense. We can all live on the welfare that you Libbos have created for us.

I'm trying to figure out where the money comes from once the socialists have destroyed all private property, and hence all jobs. They never manage to explain that one.

They deny it will happen but, to borrow the Caps Lock key, HISTORY tells us otherwise.
 
My way works, then.

Corporations.....you know, those organizations that produce....oh, what was it the poor need the most?...oh yeah, those organizations that produce...JOBS.

Those evil things.

I like 'em.

Yeah those same people that if they could would hire people for slave wages because they were desperate enough just to increase their profits. Yes, it has happened.
 
No, but by doing so, one can make a ****load more. Need an example? Look at what happened to Wall Street. Without regulations, greed wins over morality every single time.

the people doing the regulating are equally prone to greed...and now they possess more power.
 
Your point was wrong.

You seem to think that I, and people like me, owe a debt to others. That debt does not exist. Therefore, it is not the "right" thing to force me, via threats of violence, to cough up money to satisfy your own feelings of guilt.

Ahh so then you prove my point that you do not care about your fellow man only the profits he can give you.

Thank you.

yes, you need to tell me what you think I think so that you can then prove that what you think I think is immoral, and therefore because you've shown that what you think what I think is immoral that I must be immoral.

Yeah, child labor was so immoral that it happened. Women in prostition was so immoral it happened. Spare me.

When you can show what I think by quoting me, then you can begin the long hard and totally impossible battle of trying to show I'm wrong.

If you think there should be no regulation, you are giving the corporations to do what they HAVE DONE PROVEN IN HISTORY.

No. Government merely says "gimme that money, punk, or we'll plug ya fulla holes". Government often talks like a gangster in a bad movie from the thirties. I don't know why that is.

Tell me what government gets from saying a child under a certain age cannot work in a factory?

I'm not a socialist.

No, you just want unregulated capitalism to put children to work and women as whores.
 
No, but by doing so, one can make a ****load more. Need an example? Look at what happened to Wall Street. Without regulations, greed wins over morality every single time.

So, the Liberal answer to the problem is to over-regulate and over-tax these companies so they leave the country and set up shop in countries where are no child labor laws, safe working conditions and can pay workers $2 a week, unemploying millions of American workers.

That makes a helluva lot of sense.
 
I'm trying to figure out where the money comes from once the socialists have destroyed all private property, and hence all jobs. They never manage to explain that one.

They deny it will happen but, to borrow the Caps Lock key, HISTORY tells us otherwise.

Yeah, me too!...LOL!!!! They want to raise taxes AND put everyone out of work. That just doesn't compute.
 
So, the Liberal answer to the problem is to over-regulate and over-tax these companies so they leave the country and set up shop in countries where are no child labor laws, safe working conditions and can pay workers $2 a week, unemploying millions of American workers.

That makes a helluva lot of sense.

The conservative mindset is to de-regulate min wage laws so people DO work for those slave wages, but on U.S. ground.
 
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