Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 67

Thread: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

  1. #1
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,242

    Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    It's not about jobs anymore, but most of us already knew that in February. It's becoming more obvious everyday that the Stealfromus bill nothing more than a pork bill designed to fund every Liberal wet dream for the past 30 years.

    When Vice President Joe Biden announced a new $3.3 billion grant program to upgrade the nation’s electricity network, the rationale was simple: “This is jobs -- jobs,” he said in April.

    But the Obama administration is now saying it will not take the potential for job creation into account in “rating” proposed projects for possible funding -- after initially saying that would be a primary consideration.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/200...-creation.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  2. #2
    Professor
    formerroadie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Last Seen
    06-23-10 @ 08:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    2,014

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    You obviously didn't keep reading because you took the first two paragraphs at face value. What about this part of your OP?

    In a question-and-answer section written to help applicants understand the process, the document continues: “Will DOE use the number of jobs estimated to be created and/or retained as a criterion for rating a proposal for funding?”

    “No. Although job creation is not included in the technical criteria used to rate proposals, it plays an important role throughout the grant process, and grant recipients are required to submit the numbers of jobs created and retained in their quarterly reports to DOE and to recovery.gov.”

    No further explanation was given. A Department of Energy spokeswoman said that, despite the change, job creation still “will be taken into account as one of several factors in the application review,” since the program is being implemented in accordance with the goals articulated in the stimulus package.

    “The goal of the Recovery Act is to support projects that will create jobs now and usher in a clean energy economy that will also create jobs for years to come,” the spokeswoman, Jen Stutsman, said in a written statement.
    So, why can't the number of jobs be the criteria for projects getting first dibs? It's because there are times when the priorities have to be about safety of the infrastructure rather than number of bodies applied to said work. Our infrastructure is badly in need of repair and given that we don't even have enough in the stimulus to shore up all our infrastructure, there has to be criteria for what needs most attention now.

    So, it is about job creation, just not about the number of bodies on the ground given a priority in the system of infrastructure.

  3. #3
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,242

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You obviously didn't keep reading because you took the first two paragraphs at face value. What about this part of your OP?
    I obviously only posted a couple of paragraphs, per forum rules.



    So, why can't the number of jobs be the criteria for projects getting first dibs? It's because there are times when the priorities have to be about safety of the infrastructure rather than number of bodies applied to said work. Our infrastructure is badly in need of repair and given that we don't even have enough in the stimulus to shore up all our infrastructure, there has to be criteria for what needs most attention now.

    So, it is about job creation, just not about the number of bodies on the ground given a priority in the system of infrastructure.


    Jobs--since we're in a recession and people are being laid off everyday--should take priority over most everything else.

    Ultimately, though, the infrastructure inprovements that are most needed are the ones that will produce the most immediate jobs--replacing roads and bridges--that's a no brainer.

    It's painfully obvious that this about wet dream funding and not about creating jobs.

    It's said all too clear in this comment:

    “The goal of the Recovery Act is to support projects that will create jobs now and usher in a clean energy economy that will also create jobs for years to come,” the spokeswoman, Jen Stutsman, said in a written statement.
    Which really means: "**** the jobs, we're going for our green policy, instead". How much safer is the green agenda going to make us?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  4. #4
    Professor
    formerroadie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Last Seen
    06-23-10 @ 08:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    2,014

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I obviously only posted a couple of paragraphs, per forum rules.

    Jobs--since we're in a recession and people are being laid off everyday--should take priority over most everything else.

    Ultimately, though, the infrastructure inprovements that are most needed are the ones that will produce the most immediate jobs--replacing roads and bridges--that's a no brainer.

    It's painfully obvious that this about wet dream funding and not about creating jobs.

    It's said all too clear in this comment:

    Which really means: "**** the jobs, we're going for our green policy, instead". How much safer is the green agenda going to make us?
    In other words, you don't want to see the complex nature of the situation with infrastructure in our country falling apart and the need for energy independence more important now than ever? Those things will create jobs. I don't see why you're so razzled by this. You see what you want to see and leave the rest out of your own equation.

  5. #5
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,261

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    It's just more broken promises to get into office. Pretty simple.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's just more broken promises to get into office. Pretty simple.
    No it isn't, but Obama could create 1,000,000 new jobs and you would bitch about how he didn't create 1,000,001 because you hate Obama.

    The ODS is in full bloom here.

  7. #7
    Sage
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    08-27-09 @ 08:41 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    6,344

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You obviously didn't keep reading because you took the first two paragraphs at face value. What about this part of your OP?

    So, why can't the number of jobs be the criteria for projects getting first dibs? It's because there are times when the priorities have to be about safety of the infrastructure rather than number of bodies applied to said work. Our infrastructure is badly in need of repair and given that we don't even have enough in the stimulus to shore up all our infrastructure, there has to be criteria for what needs most attention now.

    So, it is about job creation, just not about the number of bodies on the ground given a priority in the system of infrastructure.
    Just one problem with your reasoning--it isn't what the DoE said, even in the part of the article you quoted.

    In a question-and-answer section written to help applicants understand the process, the document continues: “Will DOE use the number of jobs estimated to be created and/or retained as a criterion for rating a proposal for funding?”

    “No. Although job creation is not included in the technical criteria used to rate proposals, it plays an important role throughout the grant process, and grant recipients are required to submit the numbers of jobs created and retained in their quarterly reports to DOE and to recovery.gov.”
    They did not say that job creation would give way to safety considerations for some projects. You say that, not the DoE. The DoE says that job creation and retention is not a criterion for rating proposals for funding.

  8. #8
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,242

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't, but Obama could create 1,000,000 new jobs and you would bitch
    But, he didn't. Did he?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  9. #9
    Banned G.I. Joe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    08-09-09 @ 04:23 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    247

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't, but Obama could create 1,000,000 new jobs and you would bitch about how he didn't create 1,000,001 because you hate Obama.

    The ODS is in full bloom here.
    $787 billion was just spent in a way that will never help the economy. What is it going to take for you to hold Obama accountable? I would say you are far more biased than any Obama hater, and far more dangerous to the future of this country.

    And if he did create a million jobs, that would be 1/20 of what Reagan created, who took the exact OPPOSITE approach to a very similar economy back in 1983.

  10. #10
    Sage
    akyron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Texas
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 12:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    6,434

    Re: Obama Administration Grant Program De-Emphasizing Job Creation

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it isn't, but Obama could create 1,000,000 new jobs and you would bitch about how he didn't create 1,000,001 because you hate Obama.

    The ODS is in full bloom here.
    At this point 10% of that would be an improvement. The math does not lie. The politicians do. If you could peek out of your partisan tent for a moment you would see just that.


    Employment Situation Summary
    Commissioner Bureau of Labor Statistics


    If you are not selling health care, energy, or government right now... It is sad times ahead and maybe even then.
    Thank you

Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •