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Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

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Apocalypse said:
What did she do(work), and how did she manage to take care of all 7 children while working?
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She was/is a Nurse
And i have no idea, i do remember helping out when i was in my teens and looking after the kids but before that
 
tlmorg02 said:
To a certain extent you may be right on the perpetuation of lesser genetic quality. However, there are many external factors that can lead to sterility. Whether it be exposer to a substance, violent injury, or other environmental factors, people can have strong genetic make-up, yet still have fertility problems. In that regard, IVT needs to remain a viable option.
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I can understand that, you'd have no problem from me if someone had a viable reproductive system that had been compromised by some sort of injury.

tlmorg02 said:
Another thought would be that as society advances, it may not necessarily be the genetically blessed in physical strength that have the upperhand, but rather the mentally capable. Intelligence may very well be valued over the physically strong, and there is no reason to think that in the future natural selection may not change it's means.
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We should make sure to maintain a balance of at least push our species to have superior mental and physical attributes

If they could at least solve the underlying problem (a person being naturally infertile) then I wouldn't argue about it.

tlmorg02 said:
Where will get the workers and such. Can't all of us be chiefs.
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Automation will drastically reduce the need for all those indians. :wink:
 
LiveUninhibited said:
People having greater access to preventive care, as facilitated to a limited degree by medicaid, is more a matter of saving society money in the long run. Government health insurance will continue to play that role until we are willing to let poor/old/unlucky/irresponsible people die in the ER. Having a healthier populace is also helpful for productivity.
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I've seen some of the cancer death rates problem the U.K. and they are worse than ours even though they have UHC.

I don't think that free programs offer any real incentive for preventative care.

LiveUninhibited said:
I do see the way society allows more ignorant and unintelligent people to reproduce more, but to me that just indicates that democratic processes should not be relied upon to determine policy. Hence me making references to technocracy, but it would have to be based upon a better constitution than we currently have, and perhaps more technology that would enable us to more objectively assess intelligence and empathy in potential leaders.
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I have to agree with you in a lot of ways here.

I don't believe the democratic process is a viable way to choose leadership in any country. It's, in my mind, a horrible way to choose.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
It only marks you as an elitist if you attempt to establish a connection between their poverty and other undesirable traits-- essentially, if you are claiming that the rich are rich and the poor are poor because they deserve to be so.
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I certainly don't believe anyone deserves anything unless their choices lead them to the consequences.

Korimyr the Rat said:
The largest portion of every human society has been ignorant and unintelligent. The only thing to change in recent years has been their increasing power to affect meaningful changes in their government-- a change brought about less by the endless expansion of franchise than by the use of information technology and political lobbying groups to give morons a greater voice in the political system.
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I can't agree more, I dislike this part of our country very much.
 
Laila said:
UK has a situation where the North of England (Where Thatchers hand of death came into play) are more dependent on the state than communist cuba :doh

We have a underclass that are actually living on benefits, actually living on it as if it a lifestyle!! And the more children they have, the more benefits.

And it now becoming a choice for teenagers who have no aspirations.
Have a child and the state will give you a flat and money
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Do they really just give you a place to live?

It's a sad state of affairs, that someone would aspire to be permanently dependent on the state.
 
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LiveUninhibited said:
Many guys don't know how to do housework, and not all girls are patient enough to teach them. The culture of not teaching most young boys how to do housework did not change right away, and many women do a disproportionate amount of work because of it.
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None of the women these days are taught how to do housework anymore either, so we're equal.
 
I had to do all the housework when I was a kid. I don't do any of it now because my wife is a neat freak and I'm a slob so she doesn't like how I do it. (apparently arranging all the empty beer cans into a huge beer-amid is not really "cleaning" in her world. :roll:)

I know how to clean just fine. But my wife can't do those jobs that are traditionally "men's jobs" at all. If something needs fixing or replacing or maintenance, it's on me every time.

And she is not averse to inventing those jobs from time to time herself and then tossing in the fallacious "we" in every request.


"I don't like that ceiling fan. I think we should change it!"
"I think the bathroom would look better if we painted it hot pink"
"I think we should get a new oven, that one burns everything"
"We should replace these cabinets, they don't match my purse."
"We should move the stairs from the left side of the house to the right side of the house"
 
Tucker Case said:
I had to do all the housework when I was a kid. I don't do any of it now because my wife is a neat freak and I'm a slob so she doesn't like how I do it. (apparently arranging all the empty beer cans into a huge beer-amid is not really "cleaning" in her world. :roll:)

I know how to clean just fine. But my wife can't do those jobs that are traditionally "men's jobs" at all. If something needs fixing or replacing or maintenance, it's on me every time.

And she is not averse to inventing those jobs from time to time herself and then tossing in the fallacious "we" in every request.


"I don't like that ceiling fan. I think we should change it!"
"I think the bathroom would look better if we painted it hot pink"
"I think we should get a new oven, that one burns everything"
"We should replace these cabinets, they don't match my purse."
"We should move the stairs from the left side of the house to the right side of the house"
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Word-up!!! Preach it brotha!!!:lol:
 
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