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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Agreed.
    There is a trend happening in UK and across Europe, i remember a lecture in sociology explaining how those in the higher bracket of wealth and education wise were having less children whereas those in the lower brackets were having many and my professor was speculating whether it would create a generation of children with lesser intelligence *shrugs*
    That's one of the problems I have with Medicaid (free government insurance for poor people in the states.)

    Having a larger population isn't good on its own.
    To argue that poor people shouldn't have more children marks you as an elitist, even though it is for humanitarian purposes.

    Large populations of ignorant and unintelligent people leaves the door wide open for abuse. I can't support such a blind and ignorant policy.
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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Thank god for those geeks.
    We wouldn't be where we are now without scientists and brainiacs
    Thank you.

    That doesn't alter what I said, though.

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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Never have needed men to reproduce. Only their sperm. Now we don't even need that. ****ing fantastic.
    Where is the fun in that my dear?!?!

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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's one of the problems I have with Medicaid (free government insurance for poor people in the states.)

    Having a larger population isn't good on its own.
    To argue that poor people shouldn't have more children marks you as an elitist, even though it is for humanitarian purposes.
    Adults should be able to have the children they can afford. If you can take care of one child, have one. If eight, have fun and good luck.

    The one thing that pisses me off no end is when i see women on benefits in UK and pops out 8+ children and it is the taxpayer footing the bill.
    I think after 1 child, benefits should be stopped and they should have to pay for what comes out of them.
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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Where is the fun in that my dear?!?!
    The fun is that now we can stop pacifying and babying you men and just keep you as slaves as it should have been from the beginning.

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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Adults should be able to have the children they can afford. If you can take care of one child, have one. If eight, have fun and good luck.

    The one thing that pisses me off no end is when i see women on benefits in UK and pops out 8+ children and it is the taxpayer footing the bill.
    I think after 1 child, benefits should be stopped and they should be have to pay for what comes out of them.
    That bothers me a great deal as well. It creates an entire class of welfare recipients that grows and grows.

    There are many people here who do the same thing, often they don't marry the baby daddy to continue to receive benefits even though the father may still live with them.
    Then since they are not married they can split easily without any legal problems and the children exist in a split parent household.

    This makes me rethink my position on government and marriage.
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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    At this moment I think it is a poor choice of encouraging procreation.
    There is a lot of emotion involved in this but I can't overlook the long term consequences of these procedures.

    It's not good for all humans as we perpetuate lesser genetic attributes that weave their way through our planets populations.
    To a certain extent you may be right on the perpetuation of lesser genetic quality. However, there are many external factors that can lead to sterility. Whether it be exposer to a substance, violent injury, or other environmental factors, people can have strong genetic make-up, yet still have fertility problems. In that regard, IVT needs to remain a viable option.

    Another thought would be that as society advances, it may not necessarily be the genetically blessed in physical strength that have the upperhand, but rather the mentally capable. Intelligence may very well be valued over the physically strong, and there is no reason to think that in the future natural selection may not change it's means.

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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's one of the problems I have with Medicaid (free government insurance for poor people in the states.)

    Having a larger population isn't good on its own.
    To argue that poor people shouldn't have more children marks you as an elitist, even though it is for humanitarian purposes.

    Large populations of ignorant and unintelligent people leaves the door wide open for abuse. I can't support such a blind and ignorant policy.
    Where will get the workers and such. Can't all of us be chiefs.

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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That bothers me a great deal as well. It creates an entire class of welfare recipients that grows and grows.
    UK has a situation where the North of England (Where Thatchers hand of death came into play) are more dependent on the state than communist cuba

    We have a underclass that are actually living on benefits, actually living on it as if it a lifestyle!! And the more children they have, the more benefits.

    And it now becoming a choice for teenagers who have no aspirations.
    Have a child and the state will give you a flat and money


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    Re: Ethical storm flares as British scientists create artificial sperm

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The fun is that now we can stop pacifying and babying you men and just keep you as slaves as it should have been from the beginning.
    My wife already treats me as a slave, in all aspects of life!

    But I thank you for the visual, as you were naked when you wrote your reply.

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