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    Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    It took quite a while, but it finally happened. The wheels of justice finally caught up with Karl Rove in the matter of the politically motivated firing of US attorneys, and he testified before a Congressional subcommittee.

    Former Bush White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove was deposed by lawyers for the House Judiciary Committee, Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) said in an interview Tuesday.


    Rove’s deposition took place over a period of some eight and a half hours, beginning at 10 a.m. and ending around 6:30 p.m, ET — and the lawyers took several breaks, Conyers said.

    Whether Rove is innocent or guilty is not important here. That will be for the courts to determine, IF Rove is indicted for anything. If he is not indicted and convicted, then he is considered innocent. The important point here is that the concept of the unitary presidency has just absorbed a fatal blow. Presidents and their staff ARE subject to Congressional subpoenas, and when called to testify, must do so. The president is not a king, and those who work for him are not royalty who have the right to disobey lawful orders, unlike any other American. Keep that in mind, President Obama.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It took quite a while, but it finally happened. The wheels of justice finally caught up with Karl Rove in the matter of the politically motivated firing of US attorneys, and he testified before a Congressional subcommittee.

    Whether Rove is innocent or guilty is not important here. That will be for the courts to determine, IF Rove is indicted for anything. If he is not indicted and convicted, then he is considered innocent. The important point here is that the concept of the unitary presidency has just absorbed a fatal blow. Presidents and their staff ARE subject to Congressional subpoenas, and when called to testify, must do so. The president is not a king, and those who work for him are not royalty who have the right to disobey lawful orders, unlike any other American. Keep that in mind, President Obama.

    Article is here.


    John Conyers (D-MI) is issuing subpoenas.. Well thats just fantastic. The irony is just staggering.

    Wife of Judiciary Chairman Conyers Pleads Guilty to Bribery


    "After initially opposing a sludge contract with Synagro, Mrs. Conyers, after accepting a bribe, became the deciding vote in the city council on a resolution to approve the contract.

    Mrs. Conyers faces up to 5 year in prison, three years supervised release and/or a $250,000 fine."

    I wonder if he is going to use the Jefferson defense when his supoenas arrive.

    i.e. " My bribes did not interfere with my congressional duty".



    Oh and if Rove can be proven guilty of something then prosecute to the max too.
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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It took quite a while, but it finally happened. The wheels of justice finally caught up with Karl Rove in the matter of the politically motivated firing of US attorneys, and he testified before a Congressional subcommittee.




    Whether Rove is innocent or guilty is not important here. That will be for the courts to determine, IF Rove is indicted for anything. If he is not indicted and convicted, then he is considered innocent. The important point here is that the concept of the unitary presidency has just absorbed a fatal blow. Presidents and their staff ARE subject to Congressional subpoenas, and when called to testify, must do so. The president is not a king, and those who work for him are not royalty who have the right to disobey lawful orders, unlike any other American. Keep that in mind, President Obama.

    Article is here.
    "Keep that in mind President Obama"

    Is this thread about Karl Rove finally being forced to testify or is it about President Obama possibly doing something wrong?

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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    "Keep that in mind President Obama"

    Is this thread about Karl Rove finally being forced to testify or is it about President Obama possibly doing something wrong?
    It's about the Executive branch being held accountable. Obama promised transparency and he has done quite the opposite. What Rove is going through will, in all likelihood, happen to Emmanuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    It's about the Executive branch being held accountable. Obama promised transparency and he has done quite the opposite. What Rove is going through will, in all likelihood, happen to Emmanuel.
    So do you feel that the executive branch of the Bush administration has been held accountable for the consequences of their actions.

    What does Karl Rove being forced to testify have to do with Emmanuel?

    Has the Obama Administration been attempting to sheild anybody for anything what so ever?

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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    It's about the Executive branch being held accountable. Obama promised transparency and he has done quite the opposite. What Rove is going through will, in all likelihood, happen to Emmanuel.
    I am glad that somebody sees my point. Evidently, the hyperpartisans can't, or maybe they just don't want to.
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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    John Conyers (D-MI) is issuing subpoenas.. Well thats just fantastic. The irony is just staggering.

    Wife of Judiciary Chairman Conyers Pleads Guilty to Bribery


    "After initially opposing a sludge contract with Synagro, Mrs. Conyers, after accepting a bribe, became the deciding vote in the city council on a resolution to approve the contract.

    Mrs. Conyers faces up to 5 year in prison, three years supervised release and/or a $250,000 fine."

    I wonder if he is going to use the Jefferson defense when his supoenas arrive.

    i.e. " My bribes did not interfere with my congressional duty".



    Oh and if Rove can be proven guilty of something then prosecute to the max too.
    You are aware that John Conyers != Monica Conyers, aren't you? Kind unfair to blame him for her problems.

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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Rove has been hiding behind the claim that he is protected by executive privilage and didn't have to testify or even appear before congress when issued a subponea. Obama or anybody in his administration has not even given the hint of doing such a thing.

    Calling me hyperpartisian does not make it so. I feel it is just as hyperpartisian to start a thread about Karl Rove and imply that Obama will be guilty of doing the same thing when there hasn't even been a hint of such a thing. Has the president been trying to hide his activities behind the false claim of executive privilage?

    So are we supposed to talk about possible future actions of President Obama which hasn't even occured yet and may never will?

    Or are we supposed to talk about Karl Rove and his attempts to hide behind executive privilage in order to keep from testifying in front of congress?
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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Nope, it's not at matter for the Courts at all, unless you want to perform extra-constitutional jurisprudence (see: lynching, kangaroo court, crime,) as the attorneys all served at the president's pleasure and could have been legally dismissed on the advice of a fortune cookie.
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    Re: Rove deposed — over eight hour period — in US Attorney firings

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are aware that John Conyers != Monica Conyers, aren't you? Kind unfair to blame him for her problems.
    Dude, just don't. It's not even worth the words. He's probably not even aware that the Earth is round and that it revolves around the Sun. He probably thinks that's blasphemous.

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