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    Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Today, President Obama and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev reached agreement on target reductions of the two states' nuclear arsenals. They also agreed to cooperate on global issues such as nuclear proliferation.

    Reuters reported:

    Visiting President Barack Obama and Kremlin leader Dmitry Medvedev agreed a target for cuts in nuclear arms and a deal to let U.S. troops fly across Russia at the start of a trip intended to mend strained ties...

    At a signing ceremony, Obama and Medvedev, wearing identical dark suits, white shirts and red ties, pledged to finalize a treaty by year-end to cut the number of deployed nuclear warheads on each side to 1,500-1,675 from levels above 2,200.
    Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia | U.S. | Reuters

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Today, President Obama and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev reached agreement on target reductions of the two states' nuclear arsenals. They also agreed to cooperate on global issues such as nuclear proliferation.

    Reuters reported:



    Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia | U.S. | Reuters
    As to whether or not this will end up happening is of course yet to be determined, but this is certainly a step in the right direction!

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    I find the whole "mending fences with Russia" thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth as long as its an oligarchy with Putin still holding the strings behind a very thin curtain.

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmrabe View Post
    I find the whole "mending fences with Russia" thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth as long as its an oligarchy with Putin still holding the strings behind a very thin curtain.
    You prefer a nuclear standoff?

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmrabe View Post
    I find the whole "mending fences with Russia" thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth as long as its an oligarchy with Putin still holding the strings behind a very thin curtain.
    A retired military officer and military expert stated today that he believes its a stratigic move by Putin. He surmised that Putin wishes to place the US in a position that would make it possible for russia to look beyond it borders with little US intervention. Basicly by granting something the US wants and needs to help the war in Afganistan we are less likely to make a strong stance against them for making a military move against their neighbors.

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    So wait, Obama is supposed to be a 'modern' President, but all he can think of is a conflict from the 20th Century? He all but has 'detente' written on his forehead, why?

    He goes to Russia, doesn't talk about Iran or North Korea or Georgia or gas supplies to the European Union - no mention of these modern conflicts. Instead we're talking of, what, SALT III? In return for, what, airspace? This sounds like a page from my book on the Cold War... What a wasted opportunity.

    How about next time we talk about Russia as it was Russia, not the Soviet Union?

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    A retired military officer and military expert stated today that he believes its a stratigic move by Putin. He surmised that Putin wishes to place the US in a position that would make it possible for russia to look beyond it borders with little US intervention. Basicly by granting something the US wants and needs to help the war in Afganistan we are less likely to make a strong stance against them for making a military move against their neighbors.
    And Georgia was the testing ground... "Can we asshammer a democracy that was a former Soviet state and get away with it?"

    To quote a campaign slogan, YES WE CAN!

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    So wait, Obama is supposed to be a 'modern' President, but all he can think of is a conflict from the 20th Century? He all but has 'detente' written on his forehead, why?

    He goes to Russia, doesn't talk about Iran or North Korea or Georgia or gas supplies to the European Union - no mention of these modern conflicts. Instead we're talking of, what, SALT III? In return for, what, airspace? This sounds like a page from my book on the Cold War... What a wasted opportunity.

    How about next time we talk about Russia as it was Russia, not the Soviet Union?
    The treaty involved arms and airspace, but they talked about more. At the very least, from your list they discussed Georgia

    Both mentioned the issues that still divide them -- Russia's opposition to Washington's plans for a missile defense shield in central Europe and U.S. insistence on Georgia's territorial integrity -- but stressed the positives in public.

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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The treaty involved arms and airspace, but they talked about more. At the very least, from your list they discussed Georgia
    So the deliberation isn't that Obama did nothing but talk about one real issue, merely... How thankful we are that he at least talked about one?
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    Re: Obama agrees arms cuts, Afghan transit with Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    So the argument isn't that Obama did nothing but talk about one real issue, merely... How thankful we are that he at least talked about it?
    No, the point is that we don't know everything they talked about, only what the treaty was about. Furthermore, your post, which listed at least one item that they did talk about and which was publicly reported, implies that you didn't even read the article, but only the title or, at most, the OP.

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