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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    For normal American citizens this chip implant situation is a horror. Yet how about for prisoners? Would that be a benefit if we tagged prisoners so we can track them ? How about people who had commited a pedophia crime? Would it be great if we tag the pedophiles so that if they survive prison we can track them.

    Tagging prisoners and pedophiles should be an exception to the rules.

    What do ohers think about that ?
    Honestly, this is what I would be concerned about our government doing the most in this chip scenario.

    Felons have limited rights as it is. It is more likely that a chip would be used on them rather than everyday citizens.

    And I think what would be interesting is the point you brought up F10. Would society be more allowing of felons to be implanted?
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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Honestly, this is what I would be concerned about our government doing the most in this chip scenario.

    Felons have limited rights as it is. It is more likely that a chip would be used on them rather than everyday citizens.

    And I think what would be interesting is the point you brought up F10. Would society be more allowing of felons to be implanted?
    Of course they would. The people who are terrified of the government doing this to its citizens tend to be the same people who are terrified of pedophiles being within 500 miles of their children.
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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I am against it in most cases. I am also opposed to the government rounding up all red-haired people and burning them as witches.

    However, if you came up to me and asked me to sign a petition to make it illegal for the government to round up red-haired people and burn them as witches, I would laugh in your face and tell you to get off my lawn. Same applies to this.
    Why do you think the government forcing people to get ID chip implants to be impossible? You do not think they would make it a requirement in order to get a license,passport, or something else? They already take DNA samples,finger prints and other things to get a driver's license, join the military, to get a real estate license in some states and other things. Why wouldn't they move a step above? You and your fellow liberals are so full **** when you pretend to be sitting there acting like the government wouldn't try to force people to get ID chip implants. You are as dishonest as the other libs who try to claim the democrats won't try to severely restrict or ban the second amendment when they or their state has a history of trying. Considering some of the requirements for various jobs, various licenses,ID, passports and other things it is more like "when" they will try not "if" they'll try to force people to get ID chip implants. Companies already sell chip implants to parents. Its better now to have laws saying the government can't force and or coerce people into getting chip ID implants than to wait for some scumbag in office decides to use some tragedy in order to manipulate people to agree to ID chip implants.
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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why do you think the government forcing people to get ID chip implants to be impossible?
    I think it is impossible given how our constitution is.

    However, if you are afraid of the government doing such a thing, then they have abandoned EVERYTHING in the constitution, and this stupid bill means **** then because the government will do it anyways.

    It's impossible given our CURRENT form of government for this to happen to just everday law abiding citizens.

    Just to appease the conspiracy and paranoid people, however, in the future if this happens with our government, you think some stupid bill that was passed is going to stand in the way.
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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

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    I agree, it wasn't that funny.

    But I tried to make a point anyway.

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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Why is it that some people don't just say okay I trust the Government to always do the right thing and never impose any draconian or unconstitutional restriction or mandates on us ever. This of course would require ignoring history when Presidents like FDR did violate the Constitution with part of his recovert act. At the rate the Government take over of publicly own businesses are coming under Government control and in effect being nationalized it might be under way again.
    Why not better yet say something intelligent like I don't believe chip implants will ever be forced on the citizens but if they ever are as a good American who believes in our freedoms and wishes to maintain them I will oppose any measure or act that seeks to violate or infringe on my rights. And let it go at that. This would make a point and show a stance worthy of a Patriot rather than being just another nae Sayer.
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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Why is it that some people don't just say okay I trust the Government to always do the right thing and never impose any draconian or unconstitutional restriction or mandates on us ever. This of course would require ignoring history when Presidents like FDR did violate the Constitution with part of his recovert act. At the rate the Government take over of publicly own businesses are coming under Government control and in effect being nationalized it might be under way again.
    Why not better yet say something intelligent like I don't believe chip implants will ever be forced on the citizens but if they ever are as a good American who believes in our freedoms and wishes to maintain them I will oppose any measure or act that seeks to violate or infringe on my rights. And let it go at that. This would make a point and show a stance worthy of a Patriot rather than a nea Sayer.
    And yet again, people that disagree with you aren't saying they trust the government, they are saying that the Constitution protects us already from this and if there comes a time when the government does it regardless, than some stupid bill ain't going to stop them.

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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I am against it in most cases. I am also opposed to the government rounding up all red-haired people and burning them as witches.

    However, if you came up to me and asked me to sign a petition to make it illegal for the government to round up red-haired people and burn them as witches, I would laugh in your face and tell you to get off my lawn. Same applies to this.





    Thanks, I was really getting a little concerned that nobody had referenced the Nazi's yet in this thread.

    OH NOES IF WE DON'T BAN THIS THE GUBBERNMENT WILL TAKE ARE GUNS AND KILL US WITH THERE MINDS!!!111

    Ok bro. Go ahead and laugh it up. I hope you're right and I hope it is a baseless concern. Given the trend towards more intrusive and authoritarian governance in this country, I think it is a legitimate concern, but whatever.

    When are you changing your label to "Slightly liberal"? Soon I hope...

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    Re: Bill banning forced identity-chip implants clears House

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ok bro. Go ahead and laugh it up. I hope you're right and I hope it is a baseless concern. Given the trend towards more intrusive and authoritarian governance in this country, I think it is a legitimate concern, but whatever.

    When are you changing your label to "Slightly liberal"? Soon I hope...
    If you really think government is that intrusive for law abiding citizens for this to happen, then what makes you think a bill would stop them?

    It would be against the constitution to do this for law abiding citizens, so if the government did this, they would have to abandon the constitution, and if they did that then what do you think a bill would help?
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