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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I had relatives who serevd in the Soviet Red Army and an uncle at the battle of Berlin so I resent the categorization of US meeting 'Russian' troops. The Soviet Union was only 50 % Russian therefore Ukrainians, Belorus's, Armenians, Georgian, Balts, etc fought and many died taking down Germany on the Eastern front. To call the Red Army Russian may be a common mistake but it is a great insult to the good people of what was the Soviet Union to refer to them as 'Russian'.
    Off topic F107 and if you like we can go to another forum say Military or History and discuss that actual break down of the Red Army during WWII, but I will throw this one out to you I know a llot of Belrussian who will say that they are the real Russians.

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Not really it's in Russia best interested that The Afgan War goes good, don't forget it was Russia(USSR) who brought on the Taliban and Muslim Terrorist Groups wit their invasion of The Afgan.

    As for letting us fly thru there Airspace hey let you in on well know secrete this has been going on since 2004

    As for Russia stopping the move of the S-3000 to Iran it's a smart move by Russia they don't want to be looked like idiots enlight of the elections.

    As for reduction in Nuke Warheads I doult anything will happen not as longs as Russia insist that they can keep troops in Georgia.
    My understanding was that any flights through Russian airspace was incidental to our getting to bases we paid for in the Stans. I also understand that there wee some very severe restrictions as to what we were "allowed" to fly over Russians airspace. I also understand that we tried very much to route our traffic through countries other than Russia whenever possible.

    I just don't have a rosy picture of Russian cooperation. They even did vrything that they could to get the Stans to reneg on bases.
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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Off topic F107 and if you like we can go to another forum say Military or History and discuss that actual break down of the Red Army during WWII, but I will throw this one out to you I know a llot of Belrussian who will say that they are the real Russians.
    The details of the etnic breadown of the Red Army is not what I was responding to. I have always been ready, willing, and able to point out that the Soviet Union may have been controlled by the Russians as an empire but to call is Russia is wrong and a lazy approach albeit popular.

    We can discuss the falacious use of the root identity of Rus for Russia but not here. Rus was the ancient name for Ukraine and was taken over by Russia. The real name for Russian is Rossia ( Rocia) and yes that part would belong in another forum.
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The details of the etnic breadown of the Red Army is not what I was responding to. I have always been ready, willing, and able to point out that the Soviet Union may have been controlled by the Russians as an empire but to call is Russia is wrong and a lazy approach albeit popular.

    We can discuss the falacious use of the root identity of Rus for Russia but not here. Rus was the ancient name for Ukraine and was taken over by Russia. The real name for Russian is Rossia ( Rocia) and yes that part would belong in another forum.
    I didn't read the OP article.

    Is it Russia, or a collection of former USSR members who are allowing us flyover rights?
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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I didn't read the OP article.

    Is it Russia, or a collection of former USSR members who are allowing us flyover rights?
    Both !! The former republics had already allowed it and some of the Stans allowed US bases. The Russia flyover talk is supposedly new.
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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    This agreement represents another of many small victories for the Obama administration which would have been unthinkable under Bush, and will be quickly discounted and ignored by the right.

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    This agreement represents another of many small victories for the Obama administration which would have been unthinkable under Bush, and will be quickly discounted and ignored by the right.
    No it isn't as I have stated already guess you missed that part once again we have since 2004 flying thru Russian Airspace to The Afgan.

    As for Mr.Bush and the Russians well at least he never cow tie to Mr. Putin and company unlike Mr. Obama

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No it isn't as I have stated already guess you missed that part once again we have since 2004 flying thru Russian Airspace to The Afgan.
    Agree there, this doesn't have anything to do with Bush or Obama, it has to with Russia having an axe to grind with Afghanistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    As for Mr.Bush and the Russians well at least he never cow tie to Mr. Putin and company unlike Mr. Obama
    Will's comments on bush and your's here are nothing but partisan Bull****.

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

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    Will's comments on bush and your's here are nothing but partisan Bull****.
    Oh your funny it was very partisan comment by Will but see you on the Left will never ever admit that keep it come TNE.

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    Re: Russia to Open Airspace to U.S. for Afghan War

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Oh your funny it was very partisan comment by Will but see you on the Left will never ever admit that keep it come TNE.
    Wait, what?

    You just quoted him, and then stated that he had done the opposite of what your quote of him shows he did.

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