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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    I can't believe how people are still complaining about this. Who gives a damn if he had WMD? We spent an entire 45 year Cold War defacing our values and supporting or maintaining dictators to satisfy the easy fix against a bigger issue. We have been criticized and criticized for this by our "friends" across the ocean and by our own self-righteous people. Yet in the Post Cold War, we acted as the UN muscle just to maintain Saddam Hussein's throne to satisfy that Cold War legacy of "stability" while we simply pretended that his people weren't starving to death. In 2001, a mad man would shock the world and use the "starving children of Iraq" as one of his false justifications for the 9/11 attack. And in 2003, the same idiots and morons of America that dared to blame our own government's behaviors in the Middle East, as if accepting any and all blame was noble, dared to criticize the government as it set out to fix one of our mistakes in the Middle East.

    WMD is an excuse. And excuse used by the Rumsfeld coven and President Bush and it was (and is) an excuse for the critics who secretly didn't give a damn about what we were supposed to be doing for this ****ed up and twisted world that we maintained throughout the Cold War for "stability." Think I'm wrong? First of all, I'm rarely wrong. And second.......the end of the Cold War started off with the great American power of freedom and democracy condemning over 20 million people in Iraq because the thought of actually taking out the dictator didn't please the UN's outdated idea of world structure and "peace." And for twelve years, the prescriptions of the Cold War lingered on.

    I always find it disheartening when people (Americans especially) find enough strength to preach about value and good morality, yet are more than willing to turn a blind eye behind their public bitching.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    So the REAL bottom line is, Hussein lied and people died.
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    I can't believe how people are still complaining about this. Who gives a damn if he had WMD? We spent an entire 45 year Cold War defacing our values and supporting or maintaining dictators to satisfy the easy fix against a bigger issue. We have been criticized and criticized for this by our "friends" across the ocean and by our own self-righteous people. Yet in the Post Cold War, we acted as the UN muscle just to maintain Saddam Hussein's throne to satisfy that Cold War legacy of "stability" while we simply pretended that his people weren't starving to death. In 2001, a mad man would shock the world and use the "starving children of Iraq" as one of his false justifications for the 9/11 attack. And in 2003, the same idiots and morons of America that dared to blame our own government's behaviors in the Middle East, as if accepting any and all blame was noble, dared to criticize the government as it set out to fix one of our mistakes in the Middle East.

    WMD is an excuse. And excuse used by the Rumsfeld coven and President Bush and it was (and is) an excuse for the critics who secretly didn't give a damn about what we were supposed to be doing for this ****ed up and twisted world that we maintained throughout the Cold War for "stability." Think I'm wrong? First of all, I'm rarely wrong. And second.......the end of the Cold War started off with the great American power of freedom and democracy condemning over 20 million people in Iraq because the thought of actually taking out the dictator didn't please the UN's outdated idea of world structure and "peace." And for twelve years, the prescriptions of the Cold War lingered on.

    I always find it disheartening when people (Americans especially) find enough strength to preach about value and good morality, yet are more than willing to turn a blind eye behind their public bitching.
    If you are "rarely wrong" why is there no mention of the fact that we invaded Iraq to get the oil, not to right wrongs and free people?

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are "rarely wrong" why is there no mention of the fact that we invaded Iraq to get the oil, not to right wrongs and free people?



    Prove we invaded Iraq to get the oil. Prevarication as usual.
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Prove we invaded Iraq to get the oil. Prevarication as usual.

    I think this is why the right is so gullible and accepting of lies...as long as you don't hear the words, it doesn't exist. I think everyone but you knows we invaded Iraq for the oil.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think this is why the right is so gullible and accepting of lies...as long as you don't hear the words, it doesn't exist. I think everyone but you knows we invaded Iraq for the oil.


    Oh so "appeal to popularity" is the logical fallacy you choose today?
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    So you are saying it's ok for the vice president to purposely mislead the American people?
    This is your inference, not Cheney's implication.
    You interpret Cheney's words to be "misleading" because you -want- to.
    Partisan bigotry at its finest.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are "rarely wrong" why is there no mention of the fact that we invaded Iraq to get the oil...
    Because this doesn't cost me anything other than time, I don't mind wasting the effort to ask you to prove this 'fact'...

    I say that I am wasting the effort because I know you have absolutely no capacity to do so.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are "rarely wrong" why is there no mention of the fact that we invaded Iraq to get the oil, not to right wrongs and free people?
    IMO there were several reasons for invading and to PROTECT the oil flows was just one of the reasons.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are "rarely wrong" why is there no mention of the fact that we invaded Iraq to get the oil, not to right wrongs and free people?
    So let me get this straight.....

    We maintained the dictator while his people starved in the name of "stability" and helped the UN devise a twisted oil-for-food exchange program for 12 years. Yet, the critics complaint is that we invaded and toppled this persistent thorn in the desert and set the country up for democracy...."in the name of oil?"

    This is exactly the mind set I referred to. Somehow, it was acceptable that we turn away as we exchanged scraps of food for barrels of oil. Somehow, it was not a "soveriegn" issue when we placed boots on the ground in the north of Iraq for years to deal with the humanitarian crisis he started immediately after the Gulf War. Somehow, it was not a "soveriegn" issue that we flew over his airspace and dictated hussein's comings and goings.

    But...."soveriegnty" and "oil" become the immediate complaint for those who were quite comfortable with America's actions for twelve years when it came over due to dispose of the jerk and actually deal with the festering problem we helped create. America has many faces. The critics seem to prefer the America of the Cold War.

    But....as to your question....there were many factors in regards to taking "our" dictator out. My point was bout how people are full of crap when it comes their false preaching about what America is supposed to be.
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