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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Aside from the fact that this doesnt in any way show how this is relevant to the discussion...

    False. The Bush administration did not argue that Iraq had a hand in 9-11
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    Are you sure about that?

    Panel's findings suggest flawed justifications for Iraq war
    Flash back to March 2003. The attack on al-Qaeda's Afghanistan bases is over, and the start of the Iraq war is less than a week away. If polls are to be believed, the two invasions are fused in the public mind — a seamless response to the still-vivid 9/11 terrorist attacks. A USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll found that an overwhelming 88% of the public believed Saddam Hussein supported terrorist groups that had plans to attack the USA.
    Now that appears to be untrue.
    President Bush and Vice President Cheney did repeatedly claim that Saddam was tied to al-Qaeda. Before, during and after the war — in fact, as recently as this week — they used that link to justify the Iraq war.
    Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, one of the main architects for the war in Iraq, admitted for the first time that Iraq had nothing to do with the September 11 terrorist attacks, contradicting public statements made by senior White House and Pentagon officials whose attempt to link Saddam Hussein and the terrorist organization al-Qaeda was cited by the Bush administration as one of the main reasons for launching a preemptive strike in March against Iraq.

    In an interview with conservative radio personality Laura Ingraham, Wolfowitz was asked when he first came to believe that Iraq was behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

    “I’m not sure even now that I would say Iraq had something to do with it,” Wolfowitz said in the interview, aired Friday, a transcript of which can be found at DefenseLink News Transcript: Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz Interview with The Laura Ingraham Show
    Even my quote from Meet the Press showed that Cheney had alluded to Iraq involvement with Al Qaeda and 9/11, and he admitted that no such links had been found.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sweetie... its your claim.
    Its up to you to back it up, not for others to disprove.
    First, I'm not gay, so back off please.

    Second, as a matter of fact, when a precedent is set, and there is a counter-claim made, the counter claim must be proven rather then the original precedent.
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
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    Are you sure about that?
    Please provide a -direct quote- from Bush or Cheney that makes the claim that Iraq/Saddam was involved in 9-11.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    You ASSUME there was no other information that supported the idea that the site was for a new missile; that assumption is unsupportable.
    You are assuming that there was other evidence. Unsupportable! Show me the other evidence. Without it, preponderance of evidence.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    First, I'm not gay, so back off please.
    The 'sweetie' comment has nothing to do with your orientation or gender but your level of intellectual achievement.

    Second, as a matter of fact, when a precedent is set, and there is a counter-claim made, the counter claim must be proven rather then the original precedent.
    You made a claim. I asked you to back it up -- to provide proof.
    You have not done so; until you do, I am under no obligation to privide evidence to the contrary.

    So, prove your claim that GWB "failed his way" thru Harvard/Yale.
    When you cannot, please be sure to admit that you're the beforementined partisan bigot.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Please provide a -direct quote- from Bush or Cheney that makes the claim that Iraq/Saddam was involved in 9-11.
    The Raw Story | Bush: Insurgents in Iraq same as 9/11 attackers

    Think Progress Bush Now Says What He Wouldn’t Say Before War: Iraq Had ‘Nothing’ To Do With 9/11

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvVNeGHV_M"]YouTube - Bush connects Iraq with 9-11 & Vietnam[/ame]

    CNN.com - Bush slammed for Iraq link to 9/11 - Jun 29, 2005

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    You are assuming that there was other evidence.
    I made no such assumption. Please read more carefully, and understand that I was using this as an example to illustrate how the context of the whole goes a long ways to supply credibility to something thought to be 'plausible'.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I made no such assumption. Please read more carefully, and understand that I was using this as an example to illustrate how the context of the whole goes a long ways to supply credibility to something thought to be 'plausible'.
    Fair enough, I misubderstood your intent then.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Um....
    "The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq are the ones who attacked us on Sept. 11," Bush said.
    No.
    He was referring to the AQ and other Islamofascist insurgents, not the pre-invasion government of Iraq/saddam.

    Not sure how this supports your claim:
    BUSH: Nothing. Except it’s part of — and nobody has suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a — Iraq — the lesson of September 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobody’s ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.
    Dont see anything from Bush making the claim.

    When you get something, let me know.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The 'sweetie' comment has nothing to do with your orientation or gender but your level of intellectual achievement.


    You made a claim. I asked you to back it up -- to provide proof.
    You have not done so; until you do, I am under no obligation to privide evidence to the contrary.

    So, prove your claim that GWB "failed his way" thru Harvard/Yale.
    When you cannot, please be sure to admit that you're the beforementined partisan bigot.
    Hehe, it's "aforementioned" sweetie There you go.

    Presidential Legacy | The American Prospect

    "But Bush's Yale transcript shows that he was a C student. He got particularly poor grades in political science and economics. In his freshman year -- the only year for which The New Yorker obtained rankings -- Bush was in the 21st percentile of his class. In other words, 79 percent of the students had better grades than he did. Indeed, when he gave a speech at Yale's 2001 commencement ceremony, he joked, "To the C students I say, you, too, can be president of the United States." "


    "At the time Bush's application landed at Harvard Business School, Bush Senior -- who had recovered from his defeated bids for U.S. Senate in 1964 and 1970 and was by then a former congressman from Texas, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and former U.S. diplomatic liaison to China -- was chairman of the Republican National Committee. Might Senior's fame have played a role?"

    I particularly like those parts.
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