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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    That is your own opinion.
    Not just my opinion, but granted it is an opinion. Saying the reverse is also an opinion. Yet based on other evidence like the actions of AG, the double talk of Chenney, the mishandling of the reconstruction and occupation. It certainly wasnt the lack of good intelligence provided to them, it was a lack of intelligence on how the intelligence is to be understood.


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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Yet based on other evidence like the actions of AG, the double talk of Chenney, the mishandling of the reconstruction and occupation. It certainly wasnt the lack of good intelligence provided to them, it was a lack of intelligence on how the intelligence is to be understood.
    Intelligence organizations' job is to collect intelligence and to understand the collected intelligence.
    Only then do they report on it to the government officials.
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Intelligence organizations' job is to collect intelligence and to understand the collected intelligence.
    Only then do they report on it to the government officials.
    On this point, Cheney clearly made himself a home at the CIA and stood over analysts as they wrote their reports. He clearly had an agenda.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    On this point, Cheney clearly made himself a home at the CIA and stood over analysts as they wrote their reports. He clearly had an agenda.
    And by ignoring or ridiculing contrary information like that found by Joseph Wilson, Cheney obviously crafted the result he wanted and used his position to silence all disagreement.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Intelligence organizations' job is to collect intelligence and to understand the collected intelligence.
    Only then do they report on it to the government officials.
    Right, but the goverment officials picked and chose what intelligence to use. For example the Yellow cake situation.


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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And by ignoring or ridiculing contrary information like that found by Joseph Wilson, Cheney obviously crafted the result he wanted and used his position to silence all disagreement.
    Sigh...

    Understanding that you will never be 100% certain about something secretly going on in another country, what -do- you do when you have conflicting information?

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sigh...

    Understanding that you will never be 100% certain about something secretly going on in another country, what -do- you do when you have conflicting information?
    Apparently pick the info you favor and invade.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Apparently pick the info you favor and invade.
    Are you sure? Or are you just being partisan?

    If one point of view is supported by 19 pieces of information and one is supported by 1, are you "picking the one you favor" by choosing the view supported by the 19?

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Are you sure? Or are you just being partisan?

    If one point of view is supported by 19 pieces of information and one is supported by 1, are you "picking the one you favor" by choosing the view supported by the 19?
    Are you saying that there was more info supporting the invasion than against? I am not partisan at all on this War. I feel that there were multiple mistakes, but if a democracy can be created, then who in their right mind would be against it.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Are you saying that there was more info supporting the invasion than against?
    No, I am asking you a question.

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