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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Except that they weren't even close to being a V-2.
    I was actually making fun of the scud missle. But, really, it was based on the V-2, and was a clunky, innacurate thing. The site I linked to earlier goes through a little of the scud timeline.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    A blowhard whose WMD bluff (the point of this thread) could not be ignored.
    It should have been laughed at.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    It says plainly in my (properly linked) post that McPeak used a variety of coalition sources. Like I said, I'll trust his numbers over your (unlinked) source, and they prove out what I said earlier.
    Here is the link since your seem to find it hard to except the fact I might know a tad more on this subject then everyone in this thread,

    Information Paper

    Section 4 Deals with the actual number of Skuds fired and a break down on some of the attacks.

    Section 4

    Feel free to ask me anything else you would like about the report.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    There's no point in talking to you if you think the threat of Saddam Hussein in 2003 was in any way equivalent to Hitler and Hirohito circa 1941. There was no similarity.
    Are you deliberatly obtuse, or...

    People in America during WW2 believed we were safe, due to the ocean.

    They were wrong.

    You believe that Saddam, based on information we knew for certain prior to the war, had no way of threatening us.

    You are wrong. If he had WMD, he wouldn't need an entire army to deliver them here. So, your false argument that Saddam's military couldn't have been the equivelant of Hirohito is just inane chatter.

    The conversation started with your supposition that if Saddam weren't lying, and had actually had WMD, his threat was equivelant to the falling of the sky.
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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Here is the link since your seem to find it hard to except the fact I might know a tad more on this subject then everyone in this thread,

    Information Paper

    Section 4 Deals with the actual number of Skuds fired and a break down on some of the attacks.

    Section 4

    Feel free to ask me anything else you would like about the report.
    In Table 2, from your link (finally, thank you), there are 8 sources of information referenced, and the sources with full data all agree with me.

    Also, there's this sentence:

    ...In reassessing unclassified or declassified material on individual attacks, we can now account for the 46 Scuds that attacked the KTO but only 41 of the 42 Scuds that struck in or near Israel...

    Section 4

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Are you deliberatly obtuse, or...

    People in America during WW2 believed we were safe, due to the ocean.

    They were wrong.

    You believe that Saddam, based on information we knew for certain prior to the war, had no way of threatening us.

    You are wrong. If he had WMD, he wouldn't need an entire army to deliver them here. So, your false argument that Saddam's military couldn't have been the equivelant of Hirohito is just inane chatter.

    The conversation started with your supposition that if Saddam weren't lying, and had actually had WMD, his threat was equivelant to the falling of the sky.
    No, the falling of the sky line was a jab at you and your 'what if' strategy.

    Anyway, what we should have been afraid of in 2003 was 'Alternative Intelligence,' the dubious Curve Ball, mushroom cloud hyperbole, and our President's desire to start a pre-emptive war with a country his father had already defeated.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    In Table 2, from your link (finally, thank you), there are 8 sources of information referenced, and the sources with full data all agree with me.

    Also, there's this sentence:

    ...In reassessing unclassified or declassified material on individual attacks, we can now account for the 46 Scuds that attacked the KTO but only 41 of the 42 Scuds that struck in or near Israel...

    Section 4
    Yes I have already stated that I also said that 6 Skuds were launch against the Countries of Qatar and Bahrain which leaves only 40 Skuds left that were launch against The Kingdom. Also found in section 4 towards the lower half of the report is an outline of a few of the attacks on Dhahran area.

    Also I would like to point out this report came out in the spring of 2000 so the information is a tad old.

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes I have already stated that I also said that 6 Skuds were launch against the Countries of Qatar and Bahrain which leaves only 40 Skuds left that were launch against The Kingdom. Also found in section 4 towards the lower half of the report is an outline of a few of the attacks on Dhahran area.

    Also I would like to point out this report came out in the spring of 2000 so the information is a tad old.
    We are beating a dead horse here, but I have one more clarification, then I'm going to bed.

    The best estimates from your link:

    Bahrain
    Best Estimate - 3 scuds (alt reports 1,2)

    Qatar
    Best Estimate - 1 scud (alt reports 3)

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Here is the link since your seem to find it hard to except the fact I might know a tad more on this subject then everyone in this thread,

    Feel free to ask me anything else you would like about the report.
    Yes, how come you don't know how to spell Scud?

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    Re: Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    No, the falling of the sky line was a jab at you and your 'what if' strategy.
    It wasn't my comment - maybe you can take a cue from your name.

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