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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

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    So exactly what terrorists phone calls are you receiving?
    somebody in Washington D.C. keeps calling me, but when I see it on the caller ID, I don't answer. They don't leave a message either.
    Could it be terrorists? space aliens with anal probling on their minds?
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    somebody in Washington D.C. keeps calling me, but when I see it on the caller ID, I don't answer. They don't leave a message either.
    Could it be terrorists? space aliens with anal probling on their minds?
    or should I fear the worst, somebody from this forum?
    Gib was the one claiming to be monitored by overseas terrorist tracking tools.


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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    I don't recall in the election his stating the way he would obtain insurance for everyone is sending people to prison who don't or can't obtain insurance.

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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Ok, so just so we all understand...

    Is the conservative solution to health care to allow everyone to simply choose to buy health coverage, or not as the case may be? And then, if a person shows up at an emergency room or doctor's office with no insurance or cash in hand, refuse to treat them? This is the purely free market solution, isn't it? Let them die if they don't have a way to pay?

    Because, if not, and we are going to give them care, or require them to be cared for, we are all paying for that health care one way or another. Care givers have to cover the costs of providing it, and the money doesn't magically appear out of thin air: They charge all the other patients more!

    At least with the fine, they have paid us out in advance for covering their risk. This is a solution to please the center of the political spectrum... I would prefer socialized medicine.

    So, just so we all understand, please tell us the conservative solution to providing health care, or not, as the case may be. What is your alternative to requiring people to obtain insurance? What would please conservatives?




    yes this is exactly correct.



    what better way to up the organ donor pool to us rich bastards than to refuse to treat the uninsured.
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Cook county (now John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital) is a ****ing roach motel.

    It's also the primary reason I am very, very wary of governemnt health care.




    So these UHC types, do they think they are gonna get better care than what the VA provides?
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    a little fine? some of them should be jailed, put in a chain gang, and made to clean up litter....

    I have said this many times, I KNOW many people who have plenty of money to buy family medical insurance, but do not. They would rather have a collection of DVD's, video games, internet, cable TV, cell phones, a jacked up 4x4 that never goes off road, etc.
    When the irresponsible stop stealing my contributions to the tax collector, then my taxes MIGHT go down....
    OK, that part might be naive, but you get the point.

    Can anyone here give me any justification for these kinds of parents NOT being fined?
    Yeah, this little thing called FREEDOM and LIBERTY and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Has it occured to anyone here that if these people had a smaller less secure "Safety Net" they might actually do something about the issue instead of relying on your tax dollars?
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Can anyone here give me any justification for these kinds of parents NOT being fined?
    The better question would be, why do they still have their children since they show such gross negligence?
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeah, this little thing called FREEDOM and LIBERTY and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Has it occured to anyone here that if these people had a smaller less secure "Safety Net" they might actually do something about the issue instead of relying on your tax dollars?
    No one should be free or at liberty to pursue happiness at the expense of others.
    It happens, but it is not supposed to be part of the American dream.

    We need a better safety net, one that only protects those who contribute to its making.
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The better question would be, why do they still have their children since they show such gross negligence?
    We don't want to become a nation of orphanages. I am all for criminalizing poor parenting. For those who say "it takes a village to raise a child", I say let the village first decide who gets to have children. If you don't measure up to a minimum standard in parenting skills, you don't get to have kids.
    My parents should have been sterilized after the first one, especially my mother. She loved babies, but had no use for them after they had their 3rd birthday....
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    Re: Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    I want a direct quote from the section of the bill that says this. I call BS on Faux News because this information that has been released has said the opposite of this. Prove the article's ideas and let me know. Otherwise, this is more right wing scare tactics.
    It's a story by the AP, ducky, not Fox News. Lots of news services ran it.

    Senate Bill Fines People Refusing Health Coverage - ABC News
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