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Too many jobs lost, Obama says in AP interview

^^Oh I see, well I guess that they don't have an impetus to change until they have the threat of losing a job.

That's right, a lost job may actually be a good thing. I said it.
 
^^Oh I see, well I guess that they don't have an impetus to change until they have the threat of losing a job.

That's right, a lost job may actually be a good thing. I said it.

Pretty much, even then I doubt it will change much.

Working in a blue collar field has taught me a lot.
Most importantly that, the majority of the problems "The Poor" face are manifestations of their own doing.

I've tried explaining why rent to own stores are a terrible way to buy something you want, it hasn't had any affect.
I've tried to counsel people on saving and investing and again no one cares, they wish to live in excess.
 
^^It seems like you're doing pretty well though, so maybe not all hope is lost.
 
^^It seems like you're doing pretty well though, so maybe not all hope is lost.

I grew up in an upper middle class family that had terrible financial planning skills. You learn a lot watching your parents fail.
My grandfather, however, was/is extremely smart with his money and taught me enough about investing to explore it on my own.

My reasons for being a blue collar worker are my own personal failures in my early life. I didn't finish high school, had a child by my 18th birthday and some other things I consider stupid.

The thing is though, that no matter how crappy you've done things before, you can always change.
 
If they can't stand the heat, they can get out of the foundry.

it's that easy.

Why should American consumers pay more for goods just because some "American" worker is demanding too much money to do the job here?

Why should American consumers pay more for goods just because his own government is demanding too much tax money from the company?

Why should American consumers pay more for a product just because The Messiah imposed a completely ridiculous Crap&Trade scam to bilk money from power companies which naturally raised energy costs for manufacturers in the US?

Why should a business being attacked on all sides by the US government and the goonions hire employees here when he can hire them in Bangladesh and no deal with the nonsense any more?
Indeed.
Why should Americans enjoy prosperity when Indians and Africans do not?

Why should Americans be able to own a car and a home when other workers are willing to do without?

Why should American workers be able to send their children to college when college is unheard of for third world working families?

Why should American workers be able to earn enough to give their children a better chance at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when workers throughout the world do not have such rights?

You're right. But thankfully all of these differences are coming to an end thanks to the wisdom of the global economy.
 
^^Because we're more skilled and do more work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Notice a pattern to these answers?
 
^^Because we're more skilled and do more work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Notice a pattern to these answers?
Is that so? India is proving just as proficient at making software and better at filling call centers. China is superior at producing basic cheap goods in bulk. Japan and Europe are vastly superior at producing automobiles. It seems to me that we're destined to be a third world country, and it seems to me that you think that's a good idea, you know, if the market says so.
 
So let me see if I understand the complaint here. Is it because Obama said something you agree with? Or is it because in this one interview he did not answer all your questions? Or is it just another excuse to bitch about the guy who kicked your guys ass in the election?

How trite; yet you never stopped bitching about Bush for 8 years. Do you see the irony in your remarks?

I guess it never occurs to you that Goobie has a GOOD reason to bitch about this idiot; he has spent us into a $1.8 trillion deficit with more to come, wont be honest about how he plans to pay for it all and during his campaign rhetoric spiels, he claimed his policies would create 5,000,000 new jobs. Well here we are in July and the economy sucks even worse and we have lost another 3,000,000 since his term began.

And you want to defend this?

The only thing more pathetic is when Libruls complained about Bush spending us into a deficit of $200 billion while defending their guy’s $1.8 trillion deficit. Or how about complaining about Bush's failure to create jobs with a 5% unemployment rate for most of his presidency and then defending their guy's 9.5% rate. You can’t find a more transparent arguments than that.

Carry on. :roll:
 
Is that so? India is proving just as proficient at making software and better at filling call centers. China is superior at producing basic cheap goods in bulk. Japan and Europe are vastly superior at producing automobiles. It seems to me that we're destined to be a third world country, and it seems to me that you think that's a good idea, you know, if the market says so.

Where do you think a LOT of European and Japanese cars are being made these days? That's right, right here in the good old USA.

But hey, give Obama more time and they will be looking elswhere to make them. The way we are headed, we wont have a skilled and educated work force capable of producing aircraft and cars. :roll:
 
^^Because we're more skilled and do more work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Because we do better work.

Notice a pattern to these answers?

Oh really? Which has a better record of reliability, Toyota or Chevrolet?
 
Too many jobs are being lost because Obama's ideas aren't working and are probably making things worse. His New Deal Part II is just as much a failure as the FDR's was.
 
This graph shows unemployment where it is, where it would be if we let the economy recover on it's on and where PBO told us it would be, if we passed the desperately needed Stealfromus Package.

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Confederate Yankee: Barack Obama, Economic Battlefield Surgeon
 
Oh really? Which has a better record of reliability, Toyota or Chevrolet?

Ever heard of anecdotal evidence?

Is that so? India is proving just as proficient at making software and better at filling call centers. China is superior at producing basic cheap goods in bulk. Japan and Europe are vastly superior at producing automobiles. It seems to me that we're destined to be a third world country, and it seems to me that you think that's a good idea, you know, if the market says so.

:doh Listen, our history has been that we have been the best at producing things. We were the largest industrial center in the world. We could out produce everyone else. This is why we were the most prosperous. What you're talking about is trends and I completely agree with you that our lead is slipping. This is due to government intervention that has shifted focus away from manufacturing which is what the economy would naturally be focused on towards finance which is a phony economy. I want this country to be the best in the world but that is only possible via production and the government cannot and has not helped that cause.
 
I cannot stand the way politicians talk about job loss. They act like if they don't DO SOMETHING (AKA government expansion and spending) the jobs will never come back, as if the only reason those jobs existed in the first place was our magnanimous government.

The jobs WILL come back and the economy WILL recover; it just takes TIME for the free market to self-correct, that is, if we allow it to, which we're not.

It also requires the government to do something. Create conditions for job creation... like slashing taxes and regulation.

But, alas... they'd rather protect something they can't, and manage the money better left in hands of private individuals... to invest/risk... to make more evil profit.

It's sad, but this lesson has to be learned again. Government is the problem... not the solution, and the pursuit of wealth (and keeping it to do as YOU wish) is not just good but great... it's not for the government to "equalize" through their ridiculous actions. What's saddest is the average guy gets it in the teeth with Obama & Co.'s twisted policies... the exact people they claim they want to "help".

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Where do you think a LOT of European and Japanese cars are being made these days? That's right, right here in the good old USA.
That's right, they're outsourcing to us. And where do you outsource to? To places where workers are willing to do anything for next to nothing. And that's right here, the good ol' USA.
 
Why should American workers be able to earn enough to give their children a better chance at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when workers throughout the world do not have such rights?
What lamebrain liberal lunatic led you to believe that money is the key to liberty? Whomever it was owes you profuse apologies.

If Americans have wealth, it is because we first had liberty.

If Americans desire wealth, they must first desire liberty.

Freedom begets prosperity. Prosperity does not beget freedom.

That is the proper order of things.
 
Wrong, unregulated, only those with power get to participate and set the rules, just like the feudal system.

That's exactly how it is on Wall Street right now and has been since before the 30s. The financial markets are probably one of the most regulated industries in the world, and yet SOMEHOW these regulations do not prevent huge cataclysmic disasters from occurring. Hmm, gee, I wonder why....
 
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