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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I know it sounds like a huge leap for you, to provide supporting docs for you comments, but I don't have a problem fulfilling your request.
    From the actual letter, which is all retired flag officers(that is an important fact):

    have adverse effects on the willingness of parents who lend their sons and daughters to military service, and eventually break the All-Volunteer Force.
    This is hilarious.

    By the way, I linked earlier a source on an actual study of the impact of gays in the military, and they have found no evidence for any of the complaints of these retired officers, who seem to belong to a conservative political veterans group.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I know it sounds like a huge leap for you, to provide supporting docs for you comments, but I don't have a problem fulfilling your request.
    RETIRED? Seriously?

    Many of my Drill Sergeants that are retired now and when I was in would say black people shouldn't have been allowed in the military.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

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    RETIRED? Seriously?

    Many of my Drill Sergeants that are retired now and when I was in would say black people shouldn't have been allowed in the military.
    You're retired.

    These men aren't semi-literate E-6's. They didn't retire, as generals and flag officers, because they're stupid. I would say their opinions probably carry a good deal of wait with the current Joint Chiefs and Department of Defense.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're retired.

    These men aren't semi-literate E-6's. They didn't retire, as generals and flag officers, because they're stupid. I would say their opinions probably carry a good deal of wait with the current Joint Chiefs and Department of Defense.
    Way to prove yourself to be incapable of rational debate.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Way to prove yourself to be incapable of rational debate.
    Coming from you, that's a compliment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    RETIRED? Seriously?

    Many of my Drill Sergeants that are retired now and when I was in would say black people shouldn't have been allowed in the military.
    Now they're bitching we have too many in there. Disproportionate representation.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Now they're bitching we have too many in there. Disproportionate representation.
    Who is? Most black people I know consider the military a great option for black people to advance themselves.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is? Most black people I know consider the military a great option for black people to advance themselves.
    The Al Sharpton types.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From the actual letter, which is all retired flag officers(that is an important fact):
    So, does that mean that the link you provided, that included only 100 retired officers is garbage? And, you say I'm incapable of irrational debate???

    Your link, sir: Admirals, generals: Let gays serve openly - Military- msnbc.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is? Most black people I know consider the military a great option for black people to advance themselves.
    Yeah, there is a school of thought among blacks and Leftist whites that says the military targets disadvantaged youth, especially minorities, claiming that they are being used as connon fodder.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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