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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Mr Obama was never a friend to the gay/lesbian community. I never understood their affection for him. 1069 posted here that once he got into office, he was going to change laws in favor of gays in spite of what he said during the campaign. It's amazing to me that people barely even listened to what he was saying.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Mr Obama was never a friend to the gay/lesbian community. I never understood their affection for him. 1069 posted here that once he got into office, he was going to change laws in favor of gays in spite of what he said during the campaign. It's amazing to me that people barely even listened to what he was saying.
    Few politicians are, unfortunately. Politicians have their own agenda and once they win the highly coveted position they could care less about the promises that they made to get to that position.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Personally, I think that it's the perfect time to change the policy. We need all the help we can get and shouldn't really be turning people away because of something as silly as sexual orientation. If someone is willing to fight for their country, more power to them.
    I'm not saying I necessarily agree with it, but just that I feel it at least qualifies as a debatable reason for holding off. Whether it is or not, is just speculation on my part.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Defense chief giving 'don't ask, don't tell' a closer look - CNN.com


    Apparently, the Obama appointees believe that gays/lesbians are stupid, and don't realize that this is far short of what was promised.
    This 'WeNoAsk -YouNoTell' rule was concieved by a guy who thought be could con, conive, and confuse people into thinking that he feels their pain. Let us not forget that the illigitimate father of DADT was also the same character who smoked grass but did not inhale and IS the same who tried to cloud the issue of his own self being inhaled by attempting to change the meaning of what is, is.

    Therefore I do not see anything that anyone can do to salvage a Frankestein's monster of a rule that DADT is, is.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Mr Obama was never a friend to the gay/lesbian community. I never understood their affection for him. 1069 posted here that once he got into office, he was going to change laws in favor of gays in spite of what he said during the campaign. It's amazing to me that people barely even listened to what he was saying.
    Obama got 7% less of the gay vote than Kerry did, actually.

    That said, I strongly believe that Obama has personal feelings in favor of gay rights, but at the same time is a politician like any other.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Obama got 7% less of the gay vote than Kerry did, actually.

    That said, I strongly believe that Obama has personal feelings in favor of gay rights, but at the same time is a politician like any other.
    I think that President Obama has very crafty and carefull not to get himself linked to any specific interest group too strongly. Has anyone ever noticed that he is very careful not to appear to be pro Black issues either. Now maybe tha is becasue he is a Democrat and Democrats have a diverse large tent of groups so he cannot appear to be the god father to any one group yet he also needs to walk the line carefully so that he does appear to be failing to support all of the Democratic groups.

    The Republicans have it simple they basically just need to kiss up to the religious right and they are golden LOL !! I am simpliying that on purpose!!!
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Maybe I am losing my memory cells but I thought that the "promise" was to take a look at the DADT policy which is not the same as a reversal promise.

    Now I could be wrong, I was wrong once !!
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Few politicians are, unfortunately. Politicians have their own agenda and once they win the highly coveted position they could care less about the promises that they made to get to that position.
    Obama was a nobody that no one knew anything about. A blank slate that people molded into multiple discrepant characters, each to everyone's unique fuzzy wuzzy imagination. His empty rhetoric fooled a lot of people, mostly the gullible youth.

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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by xvz View Post
    Obama was a nobody that no one knew anything about. A blank slate that people molded into multiple discrepant characters, each to everyone's unique fuzzy wuzzy imagination. His empty rhetoric fooled a lot of people, mostly the gullible youth.
    I believe he even mentions that in one of his books. He describes himself as a blank slate upon people project their ideals on him.
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    Re: Defense Chief Giving Don't Ask Don't Tell a Closer Look

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I believe he even mentions that in one of his books. He describes himself as a blank slate upon people project their ideals on him.
    So if he is open about that is that back or wrong ? Would it be better to have said that he was one thing and we found out that was another ?

    Let us remember that here was a candidate who said that he will not be a "nation builder" and also a "decider" not a "divider".
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