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6 Mousavi Supporters Reportedly Hanged

Catz Part Deux

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Six Mousavi supporters reportedly hanged in Mashhad | International | Jerusalem Post

As the Iranian authorities warned the opposition on Tuesday that they would tolerate no further protests over the disputed June 12 presidential elections, a report emerged of the hangings of six supporters of defeated candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.
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But, the revolution does not appear over, and some members of the religious leadership are speaking up for Mousavi:

a prominent cleric gave a speech to opposition protesters in Teheran earlier this week in which he publicly acknowledged that the very act of speaking at the gathering would likely cost him his life.

"Ayatollah Hadi Gafouri said that the Imam [Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini] never wanted [current supreme Leader] Ali Khamenei to succeed him. He even went to say that the Islamic republic died the day the Imam did," one source said.

Other criticisms from senior clerics over the regime's handling of the elections and subsequent protests included a report from a Persian news agency, which on Tuesday quoted a senior cleric from the city of Esfahan, Ayatollah Seyyed Jalaleddin Taheri-Esfahani, defending Mousavi against the regime's criticisms.

The ayatollah was quoted as saying: "Is it a case of justice to see that an honorable and modest Seyyed [a descendant of the household of the prophet Muhammad], who until the last moments of Khomeini's life was a dear and close companion of that grand leader, is now considered to be a rioter and an agent of arrogance who must be punished?"
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And, though things are quieter, don't believe that the reformers have given up:

Amid the talk of despair and quashed protests, one defiant reformist supporter told this reporter: "The regime wants the world to think they have won. Don't believe it... Even if this regime is about to collapse, they would not let anybody know until their final hour.
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The 1979 revolution in Iran took over a year to come to fruition.
 
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OxymoronP said:
Why arent the majour News organizations sending out reporters? Are they scared?
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Remember CNN's coverage of Saddam Hussein prior to the invasion in the 90s? Shameful.

They have a moral responsibility to report on whats going on.
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NO offense, but I think our mainstream media has lost their moral compass. They're all about dollars now.
 
Sad, but not surprising :(
 
OxymoronP said:
Why arent the majour News organizations sending out reporters? Are they scared? They have a moral responsibility to report on whats going on.
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Sending out reporters?

The BBC reporters got deported, as did the all the British embassy staff.
Any information we get from Iran now comes from the citizens via the internet so we cannot verify and confirm it is occuring

Those same reporters also have a moral responsibility to report on Darfur ... or Zimbabwe and the Chlorea crisis which in my eyes is more important and should be higher up in the news agenda than Iran
 
NO offense, but I think our mainstream media has lost their moral compass. They're all about dollars now
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That is a sad fact, what we have today is Official Gossip instead of News. I am mad as hell and I wont take it anymore!
 
Those same reporters also have a moral responsibility to report on Darfur ... or Zimbabwe and the Chlorea crisis which in my eyes is more important and should be higher up in the news agenda than Iran
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Darfur and Zimbabwe are not as important to the world as Iran. Iran is in a strategically vital location, they are a powerful and influential state, and this uprising can have majour affect on the region in general. What happens in Darfur or Zimbabwe does not have the same affect on the world. Not to say we shouldnt care or stop reporting whats going on there. I dont want to seem uncaring but Iran is far more important at this stage then most events in the world. These events can be the difference between War and Peace, between freedom and Tyranny.
 
OxymoronP said:
Darfur and Zimbabwe are not as important to the world as Iran. Iran is in a strategically vital location, they are a powerful and influential state, and this uprising can have majour affect on the region in general. What happens in Darfur or Zimbabwe does not have the same affect on the world. Not to say we shouldnt care or stop reporting whats going on there. I dont want to seem uncaring but Iran is far more important at this stage then most events in the world. These events can be the difference between War and Peace, between freedom and Tyranny.
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I care personally more about foreign affairs in Asia like China. Why do we not focus on China a bit more, it is much more important than Iran. Same for Russia.

The Protestors will not suceed in overthrowing and having a second revolution. The odds are stacked against them and if anyone looked at Mousavi, he is not exactly Moderate himself. He supports the Nuclear program. So is he really that different to Ahmadinejad, would he make that much difference in foreign policy seeing power lies with the supreme ruler?
 
I care personally more about foreign affairs in Asia like China. Why do we not focus on China a bit more, it is much more important than Iran. Same for Russia.
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Focus on what in China exactly? Focus on what in Russia Exactly?

The Protestors will not suceed in overthrowing and having a second revolution. The odds are stacked against them and if anyone looked at Mousavi, he is not exactly Moderate himself.
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The Colonials will not succeed in overthrowing the Worlds most powerful Empire. The odds are stacked against them. Mousavi might not be a moderate but moderates do not lead revolutions. He is a brave man who is not affraid to die for his country, but it is beyond him at this moment it is about freedom and representation. Some times ordinary men are made extrodianery by circumstance. Dont count out the will of the people as a more powerful weapon then all the tear gas and bullets in the world.


He supports the Nuclear program. So is he really that different to Ahmadinejad, would he make that much difference in foreign policy seeing power lies with the supreme ruler?
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That is what the struggle is all about to bring the Ayottolahs into account before the people.
 
OxymoronP said:
That is what the struggle is all about to bring the Ayottolahs into account before the people.
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The protestors are not after a revolution. They are after a recount. This will make no difference to Iran's Nuke ambitions or its possible threat.
All it does is change the face at the front from Ahmadinejad to Mousavi if it suceeds.
 
The protestors are not after a revolution. They are after a recount.
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The revolutioneries are not after independence. They are after representation in Parliment and lower taxes.

This will make no difference to Iran's Nuke ambitions or its possible threat.
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If Iran wants Nuclear power that is not a problem for me, but with AmeJ rethoric and non cooperation with oversight is the problem. If the people are succesful, Iran will stop antagonizing the world and take its place as an important player in the region and the world. A Place they belong in.

All it does is change the face at the front from Ahmadinejad to Mousavi if it suceeds.
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I think its deeper than the recount.
 
Laila said:
The protestors are not after a revolution. They are after a recount. This will make no difference to Iran's Nuke ambitions or its possible threat.
All it does is change the face at the front from Ahmadinejad to Mousavi if it suceeds.
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Please stop posting misinformation. They want the election to be re-done, not a re-count.

If you aren't interested in this topic, find another thread instead of trying to subvert this one.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Please stop posting misinformation. They want the election to be re-done, not a re-count.
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:roll:
And will it succeed?
I highly doubt it.

One of the strengths the Iranian protestors had at the beginning was the western media was focused on them but even that is gone. The Western media has gotten bored. It does not sell anymore. No Arab nation will help nor will US/EU/UK or even AU. UN is keeping silent. Who is their friend who has any power?
 
Laila said:
:roll:
And will it succeed?
I highly doubt it.

One of the strengths the Iranian protestors had at the beginning was the western media was focused on them but even that is gone. The Western media has gotten bored. It does not sell anymore. No Arab nation will help nor will US/EU/UK or even AU. UN is keeping silent. Who is their friend who has any power?
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It took 7 years for the U.S. to succeed in the revolutionary war. It took over a year for the 1979 Iranian revolution to succeed.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
It took 7 years for the U.S. to succeed in the revolutionary war. It took over a year for the 1979 Iranian revolution to succeed.
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No two revolutions is ever the same, history shows this.

I am asking a genuine question.
Seeing the West has abandoned Iranian protestors, the media, the UN and even their own countrymen in ME. Will this attempted revolution/election recall/reform succeed?
 
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OxymoronP said:
Maybe not today maybe not tomorow but someday.

Hmm something familiar about those words :cool:.
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Someday indeed.
But it will not be under these protestors and i do not think it will occur this year or even the next.
Iran's generation is very young, whilst they grow old. They will replace those of history and the country will slowly evolve to reflect the population. That way will be more successful than protesting imo
 
I have heard today that many of the opposition leaders have publically declared Ahmadinejad as illegitimate and have sworn to oppose his administration completely.
 
No two revolutions is ever the same, history shows this.
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Granted, but there are lessons to be learned. In this case not to underestimate the hunger for freedom.

I am asking a genuine question.
Seeing the West has abandoned Iranian protestors, the media, the UN and even their own countrymen in ME. Will this attempted revolution/election recall/reform succeed?
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I dont agree that the west has abandoned Iranian protesters. I agree the Media coverage has been a disgrace, granted the "king" of pop is dead, get over it people he was an entertainer who liked little boys. In any case we cannot give up our support.
 
OxymoronP said:
Granted, but there are lessons to be learned. In this case not to underestimate the hunger for freedom.

I dont agree that the west has abandoned Iranian protesters. I agree the Media coverage has been a disgrace, granted the "king" of pop is dead, get over it people he was an entertainer who liked little boys. In any case we cannot give up our support.
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The hunger for freedom has been in the Arab world for a very long time but do not underestimate the determination that the status quo is kept.

Don't you?
UK, Europe, US, Russia, AU, UN has all not condemned Iran's President or spoken outright in support of the protestors
 
The hunger for freedom has been in the Arab world for a very long time but do not underestimate the determination that the status quo is kept.
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I am an optimist.


UK, Europe, US, Russia, AU, UN has all not condemned Iran's President or spoken outright in support of the protestors
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Russia? They wont do that, they have the same type of goverment but they have it to a science, where their chosen one gets 120% of the vote.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Remember CNN's coverage of Saddam Hussein prior to the invasion in the 90s? Shameful.



NO offense, but I think our mainstream media has lost their moral compass. They're all about dollars now.
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Wha is wrong with dollars they are in business and it just happens to be the news business ?
 
OxymoronP said:
I am an optimist.




Russia? They wont do that, they have the same type of goverment but they have it to a science, where their chosen one gets 120% of the vote.
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I cannot give any credance to anything that Russia says. That cabal of murderers in the Kremlin lacks any moral autority what so ever based upon their history of genocid e( 25 v30 millions killed or starved to death ) , invasion of neighbors, murder of joournalists, sending dissidents to the gulags and political assasinations. Russia and Russians needs to just shut up.
 
I think that the Mullahs would be stupid if they hung those six "reformers" because if they did they just created six high level matyrs to go along with Neda. If they did hang those six then the Mullahs have just did six big favors to the the reformers and they just may tranform the reformers into revolutionaries.

Are the Mullahs that stupid ??
 
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