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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Did you know your friend's entire medical history? Hold old was he/she? Did he/she drink alcohol? Possibly have Hepatitis (which may or may not have been disclosed to you)? Any other metabolic issues? What other medications was he/she taking at the time? Did you witness exactly how much medication he/she took over that period of time? For that matter, did you witness every single medication taken by him/her during that time? There are any number of factors involved for each person. People's reactions can vary greatly even if they're taking the same identical medication. Doubling up on any medication is foolhardy, unless under your physician's supervision. The label warnings are there for a reason.
    First of all I neither time nor the patience to answer your questions. You know that acetaminophen is not nearly as safe as the rest of the people here are saying it is. The dangers of acetaminophen for a long time have been understated and not much attention has been given to it over the years compared to other, less dangerous drugs. Nor did I ever agree with, condone, support doubling up on medication. Seriously, you're speaking to me like I've never picked up a book before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    The whole goddamn point is that it's very to take too much without realizing it and by the time you know it's too late. It's the leading cause of liver damage. It's not nearly as safe as you're making it out to be.
    Shouldn't the whole goddamn point be that medicines should always be taken as directed?
    Tylenol.com
    Directions
    Do not take more than directed
    With Rapid Blast liquid: use only enclosed measuring cup designed for this product.

    Adults & Children 12 years and over:


    • Take 2 tablets, caplets, geltabs or tablespoons every 4 to 6 hours as needed.
    • Do not take more than 8 tablets, caplets, geltabs or tablespoons in 24 hours.
    • Do not take for more than 10 days unless directed by a doctor.


    Children under 12 years
    Do not use adult Extra Strength product in children under 12 years of age; this will provide more than the recommended dose (overdose) of Tylenol and may cause liver damage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    And by the way you're dreaming if you think I'm going to take the time to read your sources.
    Argumentum ad ignorantium is passé at best, ludicrous likely, and bad form in all cases.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post

    edited: As CL mentioned, allergic reactions are also a possibility any time you take a medication.

    P.S. My condolences on the loss of your friend.
    I don't ****ing care. I'm just ****ing sick of everyone thinking it's just some safe drug, and when pointed out that it actually is pretty dangerous, people say "well any drug is dangerous if you take more than you're supposed to". Well obviously. If I take five times my prescribed dose for hydrocodone I will be just fine, but five times the dose for acetaminophen? I don't know, I wouldn't want to risk it.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    And by the way you're dreaming if you think I'm going to take the time to read your sources.
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    Seriously, you're speaking to me like I've never picked up a book before.
    Now why would anyone do that?

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    First of all I neither time nor the patience to answer your questions. You know that acetaminophen is not nearly as safe as the rest of the people here are saying it is. The dangers of acetaminophen for a long time have been understated and not much attention has been given to it over the years compared to other, less dangerous drugs. Nor did I ever agree with, condone, support doubling up on medication. Seriously, you're speaking to me like I've never picked up a book before.
    Seriously, that's not my intent. I am only attempting to point out how there are possibly factors of which you may not be aware that may have contributed to your friend's death. No offense was intended.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Shouldn't the whole goddamn point be that medicines should always be taken as directed?
    Tylenol.com

    Argumentum ad ignorantium is passé at best, ludicrous likely, and bad form in all cases.
    If you want to scratch this one up for a win yourself fine. Truth is I don't really care much about medicine anymore these days, it's past midnight, and neither of you are particularly worthy of my time to go get my books out and read them to you. Expect to see more in the future about the dangers of acetaminophen.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Now why would anyone do that?
    I have had so many arguments over the years about the pharmacology of different drugs to know that when it gets to citation posting war you really have to make a decision to commit to the argue and carry it on to win it, or just walk away because the arguments will basically boil down to personal opinions. And medicine is something I just don't have a passion for anymore.

    So if you want to sit here and say how awesome and safe acetaminophen is, go ahead, but my responses in this thread will limited only to responses people give directly to me.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    If you want to scratch this one up for a win yourself fine. Truth is I don't really care much about medicine anymore these days, it's past midnight, and neither of you are particularly worthy of my time to go get my books out and read them to you. Expect to see more in the future about the dangers of acetaminophen.
    Translation: I can't think of any valid argument to support my claims, but my ego won't allow me to admit defeat so I am going to try to look superior, and downplay my inability to back up my arguments by being sarcastic and pretending like my lack of knowledge is due to a loss of interest.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    I don't ****ing care. I'm just ****ing sick of everyone thinking it's just some safe drug, and when pointed out that it actually is pretty dangerous, people say "well any drug is dangerous if you take more than you're supposed to". Well obviously. If I take five times my prescribed dose for hydrocodone I will be just fine, but five times the dose for acetaminophen? I don't know, I wouldn't want to risk it.
    Trust me. I fully understand your frustration . No drug is without risk. None. People need to pay attention and take responsibility for their health and well being. I'm saying it isn't the government's place to protect us like we're all a bunch of toddlers running around.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    Translation: I can't think of any valid argument to support my claims, but my ego won't allow me to admit defeat so I am going to try to look superior, and downplay my inability to back up my arguments by being sarcastic and pretending like my lack of knowledge is due to a loss of interest.
    I'm tired man, and even if I did go brew a cup of coffee, crack open the books and go to town, what difference does it make?

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