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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Acetaminophen and its precursor phenacetin have been used as analgesics since the 1800s. It is an older analgesic than even aspirin.

    Paracetamol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Please show me where I said acetaminophen is some ground breaking new drug.

    Oh wait a minute, you can't because I never said that. And the fact that it's been using _only since_ the 1800s really doesn't say anything about it's safety.

    Have any of you guys studied pharmacology?

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Please show me where I said it had no analgesic qualities.
    Right here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Acetaminophen is something you'd want for a fever not for pain. Take some tylenol the next time you break a bone and see how well it works.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Acetaminophen is classified as an analgesic and antipyretic. It boosts the efficacy of certain opioid analgesics. You should always pay very close attention to the ingredients in any medication you take, whether OTC or prescribed by a physician. It's called taking responsibility for your own health. You can always call and talk to a pharmacist if you have questions. In fact, I always go to them before I go to any doctor if I have a question about a medication.

    I think the government is making a big mistake. How ever did any of us manage to survive this long without the government to step in and decide what's safe for everyone?

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Right here:
    It's more effective at reducing fevers than it is for pain. Next time you suffer a serious injury take some tylenol and let me know how much better you feel and how completely manageable the pain is. It's really meant for minor pain, opiates are not meant for minor pain, so I'm not really seeing why you guys seem to think it's so necessary. You know opiates are addictive too, if a person can get a good source for it and dont know how to remove the acetaminophen then they can really do some serious damage to their liver over time.
    Last edited by Liz Peeps; 07-01-09 at 03:34 AM.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Acetaminophen is classified as an analgesic and antipyretic. It boosts the efficacy of certain opioid analgesics. You should always pay very close attention to the ingredients in any medication you take, whether OTC or prescribed by a physician. It's called taking responsibility for your own health. You can always call and talk to a pharmacist if you have questions. In fact, I always go to them before I go to any doctor if I have a question about a medication.

    I think the government is making a big mistake. How ever did any of us manage to survive this long without the government to step in and decide what's safe for everyone?
    Or just extract the acetaminophen out of it.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    It's more effective at reducing fevers than it is for pain. Next time you suffer a serious injury take some tylenol and let me know how much better you feel and how completely manageable the pain is.
    Acetaminophen alone isn't marketed for the treatment of severe pain.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Please show me where I said it had no analgesic qualities.
    See celticlord v. you, supra.

    And your reason for why it's used so often in opiate pain killers does not satisfy me. More people are killed and suffer serious internal injuries as a result of acetaminophen enough in my opinion to warrant taking it out of the drug than leaving it in to save on the cost of producing opiate painkillers. The negative side effects of using acetaminophen are severe and numerous, the benefits of keeping in the medication are really quite minimal by comparison.
    Is that your professional medical opinion?

    And for people taking opiate pain killers that were marred by combining it with acetaminophen, there are ways to remove the acetaminophen very easily and simply using nothing but water.
    If that's the goal, I know an even easier way - Ask your doctor for hydrocodone or oxy instead of vicodin or percocet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Have any of you guys studied pharmacology?
    Have you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    It's more effective at reducing fevers than it is for pain. Next time you suffer a serious injury take some tylenol and let me know how much better you feel and how completely manageable the pain is. It's really meant for minor pain, opiates are not meant for minor pain, so I'm not really seeing why you guys seem to think it's so necessary.
    You don't seem to understand how it's designed to work in conjunction with the opiates.

    You know opiates are addictive too, if a person can get a good source for it and dont know how to remove the acetaminophen then they can really do some serious damage to their liver over time.
    Right, as opposed to the opiates themselves, which have absolutely no side effects or risk of damage.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Acetaminophen alone isn't marketed for the treatment of severe pain.
    Jesus christ, what is it with you people. Where did I say it was marketed for severe pain? You guys seriously know jack **** about pharmacology and it's almost like you want to argue even if you're not really arguing about anything at all.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Jesus christ, what is it with you people. Where did I say it was marketed for severe pain? You guys seriously know jack **** about pharmacology and it's almost like you want to argue even if you're not really arguing about anything at all.
    Between pharmacology, economics and the constitution, is there anything that you aren't an expert on?
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Or just extract the acetaminophen out of it.
    That is an option. However, as I mentioned, acetaminophen boosts the efficacy of opioid analgesics. If you're taking the opioid analgesic alone and it's not working, what do you think the next step is? People will end up adding OTC meds such as acetaminophen or ibuprofen themselves or they will call their doctor and ask for something stronger. Depending on how the stronger medication is excreted from the body, you may be looking at liver or renal damage. This recommendation isn't going to change that.

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