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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What I'm not understanding is, your not supposed to take any of these drugs for any extended period of time.

    Liver toxicity probably wouldn't develop if these drugs are not abused, so why bother banning them if it only affects the abusers?
    To me abuse is when you go to several doctor's and get multiple rx's, and take like 40 pills a day. You can take lortabs for life if you follow the rules. Some people have long-term pain that will never go away.

    Also, most people with long-term pain have to go to pain clinics and go thru drug testing, and they count your pills every visit, stuff like that.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    To me abuse is when you go to several doctor's and get multiple rx's, and take like 40 pills a day. You can take lortabs for life if you follow the rules. Some people have long-term pain that will never go away.

    Also, most people with long-term pain have to go to pain clinics and go thru drug testing, and they count your pills every visit, stuff like that.
    I don't pretend to know what long term pain feels like and I hope to never experience it, however, I have someone is my family that has had over 60 surgeries in her short life (less than 30 years old).
    A great many of those have been major and the after affects long lasting, she never takes anything for long term pain and only uses pain killers after a surgery has taken place.

    It's hard for me to believe that there are that many people who need pain killers for long term pain and that it is most likely an addiction from short term usage.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    To me abuse is when you go to several doctor's and get multiple rx's, and take like 40 pills a day. You can take lortabs for life if you follow the rules. Some people have long-term pain that will never go away.

    Also, most people with long-term pain have to go to pain clinics and go thru drug testing, and they count your pills every visit, stuff like that.
    And this has what to do with getting rid of these drugs? Sounds like an issue for investigating doctors, and not drug companies.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And this has what to do with getting rid of these drugs? Sounds like an issue for investigating doctors, and not drug companies.
    I can see having some of the acetominophen reduced in these drugs, but the drugs themselves probably help a lot of people with terminal pain.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    This is true, but most people can, so why can't they push the vicoprofen, and those that have problems get the tylenol. My question is why so much tylenol? 250 mg. seems like plenty, but it's usually 500 or 650 mg.
    I can't say for sure, but maybe it has something to do with the fact that Ibuprofen interacts with a greater number of other drugs. I've taken both before and vicoprofen works very well as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    It's hard for me to believe that there are that many people who need pain killers for long term pain and that it is most likely an addiction from short term usage.

    People living with pain on a daily basis will dispute that. As will physicians.



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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't pretend to know what long term pain feels like and I hope to never experience it, however, I have someone is my family that has had over 60 surgeries in her short life (less than 30 years old).
    A great many of those have been major and the after affects long lasting, she never takes anything for long term pain and only uses pain killers after a surgery has taken place.

    It's hard for me to believe that there are that many people who need pain killers for long term pain and that it is most likely an addiction from short term usage.
    You're thinking about acute pain in MHO. Chronic pain goes along with many diseases and there's nothing to take usually but opiods. MS, fibromyalgia, cancer, bulging discs, pinched nerves are just a few things that can cause chronic pain, and the older we get we pick up this stuff.

    People can and do get addicted, you're right, I agree.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    I can't say for sure, but maybe it has something to do with the fact that Ibuprofen interacts with a greater number of other drugs. I've taken both before and vicoprofen works very well as far as I'm concerned.
    I was thinking the manufacturers of tylenol pushed it. Ibuprofen does cause bleeding, but MHO is why so much tylenol? I think tylenol lobbyied way back when and it stuck, even when it went generic.
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    IMHO, "vikes" do more harm than good, although my sentiment comes from an athletic standpoint. For horrible pain, opiates serve as an appeaser; steroidal epidurals are the only thing that can relieve extreme cases. But lets say you have some inflammation in your back, take 3 "tens" a day, and go about your business. Pain is the bodies way of saying leave me alone. Most of the people i know, who take "vikes" do it so that they can perform their daily activities. This is really a slippery slope, because once the drugs wear off, they are in even more pain than before, and are then reliant on taking a higher dose, which sometimes leads to taking oxy's, or dozens of "vikes" per day.

    The best bet for temporary pain is rest. Letting your body heal without recreating inflammation is the key to a full recovery. Now if it is chronic pain, there are several steroidal options that can make life easier without the risk of opiate addiction. But this is just my opinion....
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    Re: Panel Recommends Ban on 2 Popular Painkillers

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    IMHO, "vikes" do more harm than good, although my sentiment comes from an athletic standpoint. For horrible pain, opiates serve as an appeaser; steroidal epidurals are the only thing that can relieve extreme cases. But lets say you have some inflammation in your back, take 3 "tens" a day, and go about your business. Pain is the bodies way of saying leave me alone. Most of the people i know, who take "vikes" do it so that they can perform their daily activities. This is really a slippery slope, because once the drugs wear off, they are in even more pain than before, and are then reliant on taking a higher dose, which sometimes leads to taking oxy's, or dozens of "vikes" per day.

    The best bet for temporary pain is rest. Letting your body heal without recreating inflammation is the key to a full recovery. Now if it is chronic pain, there are several steroidal options that can make life easier without the risk of opiate addiction. But this is just my opinion....
    You're so impressive with all your jargon. Vikes, tens.....
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