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    Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    The closed hearing, now in its eighth hour, is being held in an armory at Hancock Air Base in Syracuse. A four-member panel of officers will decide if Choi, a platoon leader with the famed 1-69th Infantry out of Manhattan, violated the federal statute that forbids gay and lesbian members of the military from serving openly or engaging in homosexual acts.
    I asked my dad who served in Vietnam how he felt about the DADT policy. He told me that he believes its stupid and if they can kill the enemy it shouldnt matter.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I asked my dad who served in Vietnam how he felt about the DADT policy. He told me that he believes its stupid and if they can kill the enemy it shouldnt matter.

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    Ask your dad if he knowingly shared an open bay shower with a gay soldier. Ask him how he would have felt about that. Ask him if he would, "spoon", with an openly gay soldiers on a freezing cold night.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ask your dad if he knowingly shared an open bay shower with a gay soldier. Ask him how he would have felt about that? Ask him if he would, "spoon", with an openly gay soldiers on a freezing cold night.
    Can you debate the issue without going into sensationalism?
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Can you debate the issue without going into sensationalism?
    Just asking a fair question. I've yet to hear anyone that actually serves in an openly gay American army chime in on the subject.

    All the opponents of DADT either served in the military 40 years ago, or never have and never will.

    Let me ask you this, if it's ok for gay and straight soldiers to share billets, do you support male and female soldiers sharing billets, including open bay showers? Be honest.

    What if a gay soldier makes a pass at a straight soldier in the latrine? Sexual harrassment? Intent to rape?

    That's not sensationalism. That's reality.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ask your dad if he knowingly shared an open bay shower with a gay soldier. Ask him how he would have felt about that. Ask him if he would, "spoon", with an openly gay soldiers on a freezing cold night.
    To think of all those delicate little flowers having to.....shudder.... allow a gay guy to see their jewels.

    What if they didn't measure up? The horror. Oh, the horror!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    To think of all those delicate little flowers having to.....shudder.... allow a gay guy to see their jewels.

    What if they didn't measure up? The horror. Oh, the horror!
    Do you think it's a good idea for males and females to share showers? It's a yes, or no question.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    http://www.first.army.mil/eo/pdf/arm...exual_harr.pdf

    Welcome to the world of straight male soldiers reporting cases of sexual harrassment. The sexual harrassment rate in the military is going to go through the roof.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ask your dad if he knowingly shared an open bay shower with a gay soldier. Ask him how he would have felt about that. Ask him if he would, "spoon", with an openly gay soldiers on a freezing cold night.
    Who the hell cares? If people are more scared of another dude checking out their junk than they are of getting their head blown off in war, that's THEIR problem.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    http://www.first.army.mil/eo/pdf/arm...exual_harr.pdf

    Welcome to the world of straight male soldiers reporting cases of sexual harrassment. The sexual harrassment rate in the military is going to go through the roof.
    Where did you get the idea that gay people are all sex-crazed maniacs who can't keep their hands off straight males? Is this one of your fantasies, perhaps?
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    http://www.first.army.mil/eo/pdf/arm...exual_harr.pdf

    Welcome to the world of straight male soldiers reporting cases of sexual harrassment. The sexual harrassment rate in the military is going to go through the roof.
    That was the claim when DADT was first implemented. Funnily enough, it did not happen. In fact, all the claims of doom and gloom because gays might be able to serve proved to be false.

    Now, do you have any rational objections, or is it going to be all this horror story crap that reveals a lot of ignorance?

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