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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Can someone answer a simple question for me? Why are some supposedly manly testosterone-heavy men so obviously scared of gay men?
    So, you're still convinced that it's all about homophobia? Surely you're smarter than that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you're still convinced that it's all about homophobia? Surely you're smarter than that.
    Dislike of homosexuals comes in many forms. Sometimes it manifests in a personal discomfort. Other times it manifests in a more general antipathy. I don't personally use the word 'homophobe' except in the rarest of occasions. And I wouldn't use it here.

    You mentioned earlier that you knew of only one gay soldier during your time in the service. Only one. You indicated he had serious predatory tendencies. You said he repeatedly got caught 'oogling' men in the shower. You said that he got his ass kicked and was sent to the psychiatrist who determined he was unstable and unfit for service. He was kicked out of the service. Not a particularly flattering portrait. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to paint a more unflattering portrait, unless it turns out he was also humping the sheep and shoplifting at the post exchange.

    This is the one and only gay soldier you came into contact with.

    The only one.

    A serial predator to got his ass kicked in the shower?



    During my time with the Air Force I met a gay Navy fighter pilot.

    I met gay acquisition officers and planners in the pentagon.

    I met gay medical personnel who served with distinction.

    I had a date with a guy in the official Air Force band. (No joke.)

    Your story about one serial predator doesn't fit the reality of the many gay men and lesbians who serve now and have served in the past.

    It does, however, fit neatly with a narrow-minded anti-gay agenda. Call it what you will.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Oh, just remembered... after college I briefly dated a Navy guy who shipped off on a submarine. He used to write me long letters. As far as I know he did his job well and without any problems.

    I can't think of a more 'intimate' environment than a sub.


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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Why would it hinder the unit or whatever? If I were in war, all I would care about is if the guy or gal next to me could shoot, not which side they got their bread buttered.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Why would it hinder the unit or whatever? If I were in war, all I would care about is if the guy or gal next to me could shoot, not which side they got their bread buttered.
    It matters, because there more to it than just being able to shoot.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post

    It does, however, fit neatly with a narrow-minded anti-gay agenda. Call it what you will.
    That's the only argument that you have.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's the only argument that you have.
    Well when the slipper fits, Cinderella...

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you're still convinced that it's all about homophobia? Surely you're smarter than that.
    I'm a fan of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm a fan of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
    It states that one should make as few assumptions as possible. It's automatically assumed that my objection the abolition of DADT, let me say that again, my objection to the abolition of DADT; is based purely on a fear of gay men.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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