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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Like I posted back a page it made a difference.

    Take a bunch of homophobic young men hopped up on testosterone and typical tough guy army bull****. Now throw a few homosexuals into the mix.

    Is that any more different thatn how whites used to feel about blacks?

    YES, there comes a time when things need to change.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post

    Race is not a lifestyle choice.
    Neither is being gay for most.

    But hey you justify beating up gays and discriminating against them all you want.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Now I'm justifying beating up homosexuals....

    You can't argue this because you have no argument to make that has any bearing on the situation at hand.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not personally. But Blackwater doesn't discriminate against homosexuals.


    And you know this factually, how?




    I think you are speculating.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Is that any more different thatn how whites used to feel about blacks?
    This has nothing at all to do with my point.

    To answer your question no, but this issue is not the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    YES, there comes a time when things need to change.
    Not always.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This has nothing at all to do with my point.

    To answer your question no, but this issue is not the same.

    The anti-DADT crowd has been comparing apples to oranges all through this thread.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The anti-DADT crowd has been comparing apples to oranges all through this thread.
    My problem is they seem to think it did not work in the past. It did work right or wrong.

    I think now with the attitudes of young people changing it may no longer be needed. This does not diminish the fact it helped back in the 80's, again right or wrong.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    My problem is they seem to think it did not work in the past. It did work right or wrong.

    I think now with the attitudes of young people changing it may no longer be needed. This does not diminish the fact it helped back in the 80's, again right or wrong.
    As you pointed out in an earlier post, people--males and females--who are in their late teens and early 20's are, generally speaking, homophobic. Add in all those type A personalities that are a majority in the military and it's might spell trouble.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep just like Blacks used to be activists. I mean blacks can't be officers can they?

    Tell me Triad, does the fact that the military used to think blacks were second class people incapable of leading people mean it is true?
    Are we really comparing skin color to the lifestyle of a sodomite?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    Are we really comparing skin color to the lifestyle of a sodomite?
    We are comparing the FACT that at one time prejudice dominated thinking of some people in the military. The same is true today with gays.

    I have NO DOUBT that if DADT policy is removed and gays are allowed to serve openly the military will be just as strong then as it is today. Yes, there will be some problems with transition, but it isn't impossible.

    Unless of course you believe the entire military is just one big bunch of gay hating homophobic people, which I don't believe the military to be.

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