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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

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    Compelling argument. Keep up the good work.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    Most people who rant on about how it's not an issue to have openly gay men in the military have never served themselves.
    Do you have a specific example from your time in the military where banning gays from serving openly would have helped?
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you have a specific example from your time in the military where banning gays from serving openly would have helped?
    Like I posted back a page it made a difference.

    Take a bunch of homophobic young men hopped up on testosterone and typical tough guy army bull****. Now throw a few homosexuals into the mix.

    Back in the 80's when I was active RA DADT was a good idea.

    As I said before maybe times and peoples attitudes have changed enough to where it is no longer necessary.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    Most people who rant on about how it's not an issue to have openly gay men in the military have never served themselves.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you have a specific example from your time in the military where banning gays from serving openly would have helped?
    First off, if you think that repealing DADT is going to result in a coming out party for all the gays in the military, you're navie to say the least. The fact of the matter is that many soldiers, though granted not all of them, view grown men who sodomize each other as unnatural freaks. Maybe this isn't an "evolved" opinion, but it's just reality.


    There are many situations in the Army where you're in close quarters and being close to an openly gay man would be akward. There was a guy in my basic training who had a habit of staring at guy's penises in the shower. Finally a dude called him out on it and he ended up getting the living **** kicked out of him.

    There are gay men in all branches of the service. Some are pretty much known, some are completely secret. The fact is it does not serve anyone's interest to have them broadcast their sexuality. This is just another instance of liberals trying to shove the gay lifestyle down people's throats and make them accept it as legitimate and respectable.

    Liberals are making the same mistake with this issue that they do with everything else. They believe that striving to implement their ideological view of how the world should be is more important than whether or not it can actually be applied in a real-life situation. I honestly believe that liberalism is a mental disorder.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    They believe that striving to implement their ideological view of how the world should be is more important than whether or not it can actually be applied in a real-life situation.
    Yeah that same ideology that said that blacks would not be a detriment to the military or that woman can serve was soo backwards to what you believe.

    What a shame if gays could serve openly, that would just be the end of the military because as we all know military personnel can't handle any changes right?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    He became an activist and violated policy.
    He is unfit to be an Officer in the US military.




    Doesn't matter what he was being an activist for.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    He is unfit to be an Officer in the US military.
    Yep just like Blacks used to be activists. I mean blacks can't be officers can they?

    Tell me Triad, does the fact that the military used to think blacks were second class people incapable of leading people mean it is true?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Yeah just like that that's right.


    He fails to follow orders, he does not represent his role porperly, he is a detriment to the chain of command.

    His conduct is unbecoming of an officer in the United States Army and grounds for his dismissal from service.

    He knew the rules, he knowingly broke them, his conduct is unfit for an officer in the US military..

    He can decide to do whatever he wants as a civilian..He cannot do whatever he wants as an officer in the US Army. Why we call the G.I.'s.

    He got what he deserved.

    .........
    Continue trying to use emotional responses and such..it makes no difference.


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    ((Its usually really easy to tel who has been in the military and who has not by the responses to things like this. Those who think this officer has any right whatsoever to do what he did has never been in the US military. (yes its obvious)))
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe View Post
    First off, if you think that repealing DADT is going to result in a coming out party for all the gays in the military, you're navie to say the least. The fact of the matter is that many soldiers, though granted not all of them, view grown men who sodomize each other as unnatural freaks. Maybe this isn't an "evolved" opinion, but it's just reality.
    I never implied it was going to result in a "coming out party." Some of them will be open about it, and some will prefer to remain closeted for whatever reason. So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe
    There are many situations in the Army where you're in close quarters and being close to an openly gay man would be akward. There was a guy in my basic training who had a habit of staring at guy's penises in the shower. Finally a dude called him out on it and he ended up getting the living **** kicked out of him.
    Ah, once again the horror of having another dude stare at your junk while you're serving in a dangerous job that sends you into war zones.

    If that's your biggest worry about serving in the military, you have it pretty well. And at any rate, that isn't a good enough reason to ban gays from serving openly. Besides, they can still check out your package whether they're open about their sexuality or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe
    There are gay men in all branches of the service. Some are pretty much known, some are completely secret. The fact is it does not serve anyone's interest to have them broadcast their sexuality. This is just another instance of liberals trying to shove the gay lifestyle down people's throats and make them accept it as legitimate and respectable.
    "Broadcast their sexuality"? Yes, if gays are allowed to serve openly, I'm sure you'll see drag queens having gay pride parades through the barracks.

    Why is it OK for heterosexuals to "broadcast their sexuality" in the military?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.I. Joe
    Liberals are making the same mistake with this issue that they do with everything else. They believe that striving to implement their ideological view of how the world should be is more important than whether or not it can actually be applied in a real-life situation. I honestly believe that liberalism is a mental disorder.
    So you don't actually have a reason for opposing this...you only oppose it because it's what Duh Librhuls want.
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