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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you fully aware of what constitues sexual harrassment in the miltiary? There's more to it than physical contact. A male soldier can be charged with sexual harrassment for simply opening a door for a female soldier. Bet you didn't know that.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you're worried that the sexual harrassment rate is going to go through the roof because gay men will open doors for straight men?
    I think that should constitute a thread win.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You mean like does occasionally happen now, and has since women have served in the military on occasion?
    Gonna have to ask you to back that up with some solid evidence. I know how big you are on supporting docs.




    That is also not true. I went to a godawful number of training classes on sexual harassment, and opening doors for some one is not even close to qualifying.
    You musta been asleep, then.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He is not making any claim, you are. It's your responsibility to back up your claim.
    Nope. You're making a claim that this won't be a problem. You're going to have to back that up. Don't forget the documentation of males and females regularly sharing showers. Can't wait for that one.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Apdst, are you worried about sexual harassment cases going through the roof because gay men will open doors for other men?
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Apdst, are you worried about sexual harassment cases going through the roof because gay men will open doors for other men?
    How many times are you going to post that silly ****? I read it the first time. Feeling left out, or something?

    SIERRA VISTA Fear is keeping Pvt. Kyle Lawson awake at night not of the enemy, but of his fellow soldiers.
    For weeks, the 19-year-old Tucson native has been sleeping on a cot in his drill sergeant's office to protect him from further attacks because he is gay.
    He's already had his nose broken and says he also was threatened with a knife after a friend let Lawson's secret slip at a party attended by members of the 309th Military Intelligence Battalion, a training unit at Fort Huachuca 75 miles southeast of Tucson.

    Gay soldier leaving Army after assault at Fort Huachuca | www.azstarnet.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nope. You're making a claim that this won't be a problem. You're going to have to back that up. Don't forget the documentation of males and females regularly sharing showers. Can't wait for that one.
    Hey, newsflash...gay men are still men. They get to use the men's facilities. In fact, they've been doing it for years without any problem up till now.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Hey, newsflash...gay men are still men. They get to use the men's facilities. In fact, they've been doing it for years without any problem up till now.
    So, what unit were you in?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many times are you going to post that silly ****? I read it the first time. Feeling left out, or something?
    Well you didn't respond. Perhaps if you would defend your own ridiculous arguments instead of slinking away with your tail between your legs when you get owned, I wouldn't need to re-post them.

    Now then:

    1) You post an absurd claim that sexual harassment cases are going to go through the roof if gays are allowed to openly serve.
    2) I asked why you thought that gays couldn't keep their hands to themselves.
    3) You said that it didn't matter if they could keep their hands to themselves, since (according to you) people can be charged with sexual harassment just for opening doors.

    ...ergo...

    You are saying that sexual harassment cases will go through the roof because gay people will open doors for other men, and similar "offenses." If I missed something, please explain what forms of sexual harassment you ARE worried about, exactly.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many times are you going to post that silly ****? I read it the first time. Feeling left out, or something?
    Nothing in all that indicates sexual harassment becoming a problem for heterosexual soldiers at the hands of gay soldiers.

    But it did say something very interesting...

    Arguments like Donnelly's have surfaced in two dozen countries that legalized gay military service, said Belkin, who runs the research center on gays in the military. But the problems predicted never came to pass, he said.
    U.S. troops in Iraq and elsewhere already serve with openly gay troops from Britain, Australia and other allied nations without incident, Belkin said.

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