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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What does that have to do with my post?
    You want to speak with authority on the subject, so therefore you must give yourself credibility as to that authority. You made statements of factual from; so you need to either post documentation supporting those facts, or a resume proving to use that your experience supports those facts. Just you saying it, don't mean jack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You want to speak with authority on the subject, so therefore you must give yourself credibility as to that authority. You made statements of factual from; so you need to either post documentation supporting those facts, or a resume proving to use that your experience supports those facts. Just you saying it, don't mean jack.
    Excuse me? Serving in the military makes one an authority on everyone elses opinions and everything else in the world?

    So, in order to have an opinion on whether or not I think it's okay to shower with men, I have to have served in the military? The fact that I know, for a fact, that I have never had a problem showering with, using the bathroom with, sleeping with, or changing clothes in front of men isn't enough for me to say that I don't have a problem with it?

    In order to state the FACT that women aren't "fragile little flowers", I need a resume of experience supporting that fact? (that I actually have, but I don't need it to know the obvious)

    And in order to state the FACT that gay men /= women, I need some sort of 'credibility as to that authority'?

    Are you ****ing serious? No really... are you ****ing serious?

    Here's what you do, hon... Go look down a gay man's pants. Notice the penis. Then go look down a woman's pants, and notice the distinct lack of one. Neither of us need any sort of resume to know that gay men are not women.

    So, until you're able to somehow prove that gay men are actually 'fragile little flowers' women, then just you saying it don't mean jack.
    Last edited by rivrrat; 07-05-09 at 11:44 PM.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Excuse me? Serving in the military makes one an authority on everyone elses opinions and everything else in the world?

    So, in order to have an opinion on whether or not I think it's okay to shower with men, I have to have served in the military? The fact that I know, for a fact, that I have never had a problem showering with, using the bathroom with, sleeping with, or changing clothes in front of men isn't enough for me to say that I don't have a problem with it?

    In order to state the FACT that women aren't "fragile little flowers", I need a resume of experience supporting that fact? (that I actually have, but I don't need it to know the obvious)

    And in order to state the FACT that gay men /= women, I need some sort of 'credibility as to that authority'?

    Are you ****ing serious? No really... are you ****ing serious?

    Here's what you do, hon... Go look down a gay man's pants. Notice the penis. Then go look down a woman's pants, and notice the distinct lack of one. Neither of us need any sort of resume to know that gay men are not women.
    No, but to speak of fact, you must have something to back your facts up with. Do you?

    Do want to deal with reality, or with you're own expereience? they're two different things, ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, but to speak of fact, you must have something to back your facts up with. Do you?
    Okay, let me just get this straight for clarification here.

    You want "something to back up" the fact that gay men are not women?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Okay, let me just get this straight for clarification here.

    You want "something to back up" the fact that gay men are not women?
    You should inspect them to ensure they are not actually women. Could be a fun job for you.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You should inspect them to ensure they are not actually women. Could be a fun job for you.
    Well, I'm not sure if I have the authoriti or correct credentials to differentiate a man from a woman.

    Perhaps there's a class on it somewhere? Where we get to feel boobies and measure penises all day long?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Well, I'm not sure if I have the authoriti or correct credentials to differentiate a man from a woman.

    Perhaps there's a class on it somewhere? Where we get to feel boobies and measure penises all day long?
    Sign me up for that class!

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What does that have to do with my post?
    Nothing. It's the fall back stance he takes for a failing argument and getting his ass handed to him for being obtuse and for lying and having it pointed out.

    And on another note... APTDS: NO ONE ****ING CARES ABOUT THIS SHOWERING DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO THE DISCUSSION TO ANYONE BUT YOU.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You want to speak with authority on the subject, so therefore you must give yourself credibility as to that authority. You made statements of factual from; so you need to either post documentation supporting those facts, or a resume proving to use that your experience supports those facts. Just you saying it, don't mean jack.
    So when someone asks for proof from you, they are being argumentative and are a part of the "got proof" crowd, but its' okay for you to do it to others?

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Nothing. It's the fall back stance he takes for a failing argument and getting his ass handed to him for being obtuse and for lying and having it pointed out.

    And on another note... APTDS: NO ONE ****ING CARES ABOUT THIS SHOWERING DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO THE DISCUSSION TO ANYONE BUT YOU.
    I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to support any of the claims that have been made on this thread from the other side of the agrument. I've asked and no one had delivered. Rivrrat being cool with males and females showering in together in the military has nothing to do with reality. She posted it as if it did.

    I'm not the one that brought it up as a defense for my argument. YOUR side did. It's time to put up, or shut up. The only thing you've posted are personal attacks about my sexual preference. Got anything of any kind of substance?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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