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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Huh?? That don't even make any sense. And, you want to insult me for being a bad reader?
    Keep up with the insults, but I'm still waiting for you to show me the exact quote where I called you homophobic.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Must be bad, because I have not seen it. I have read both the sources he linked, and nothing in either about a rash of sexual harassment imminent with DADT repeal.

    He did refute his own claim about sexual harassment being opening doors for some one though.

    Think he will show us where he proved it, or just keep claiming loudly that he did it?
    Got those shower docs? I mean, put up, or shutup. Don't be a hypocrite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wanna post it? Let's see it. Can't wait!
    Source you gave us: http://www.first.army.mil/eo/pdf/arm...exual_harr.pdf

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Keep up with the insults, but I'm still waiting for you to show me the exact quote where I called you homophobic.
    I already showed you, man. I can't do anything else to help you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Must be the same page that Redress is missing.
    Must be. And the same page that Kandahar is missing. And that Dr. Patrick is missing. And that Alex is missing...Everyone seems to be missing it except you.

    So either it doesn't exist, there is some major corruption on the forum, or someone is off their meds. I am uncertain as to which is the case. Perhaps you could solve this mystery for us and link the page.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mmmmm, that's not it. try again?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got those shower docs? I mean, put up, or shutup. Don't be a hypocrite.
    It's hilarious, people ask you for proof and you fold like a cheap suit and try desperately to turn it around on others. The fail is downright epic. Even TD is better at tapdancing around the issue than you are, and that's saying something.
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That certainly not the link to the shower info you stated as undeniable fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wanna post it? Let's see it. Can't wait!
    Sure. Here is the relevant section from the document which you recommended:

    7–4. Definition
    a. Sexual harassment is a form of gender discrimination that involves unwelcomed sexual advances, requests for
    sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature when-
    (1) Submission to, or rejection of, such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of a
    person’s job, pay, career, or
    (2) Submission to, or rejection of, such conduct by a person is used as a basis for career or employment decisions
    affecting that person, or
    (3) Such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual’s work performance or
    creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment.
    b. Any person in a supervisory or command position who uses or condones implicit or explicit sexual behavior to
    control, influence, or affect the career, pay, or job of a soldier or civilian employee is engaging in sexual harassment.
    Similarly, any soldier or civilian employee who makes deliberate or repeated unwelcomed verbal comments, gestures,
    or physical contact of a sexual nature is engaging in sexual harassment.

    7–5. Categories of sexual harassment
    a. Verbal. Examples of verbal sexual harassment may include telling sexual jokes, using sexually explicit profanity,
    threats, sexually oriented jody calls, sexual comments, whistling in a sexually suggestive manner, and describing
    certain sexual attributes about one’s physical appearance. Verbal sexual harassment may also include using terms of
    endearment such as “ honey”, “ babe”, “ sweetheart”, “ dear”, “ stud” or “ hunk” in referring to soldiers, civilian coworkers
    or family members.
    b. Nonverbal. Examples of nonverbal sexual harassment may include staring at someone (i.e. “ undressing someone
    with one’s eyes”), blowing kisses, winking, or licking one’s lips in a suggestive manner. Nonverbal sexual harassment
    also includes printed material. Examples may include displaying sexually oriented pictures, cartoons or using sexually
    oriented screen savers on one’s computer. Further examples include sending sexually oriented notes, letters, faxes, or email.
    c. Physical Contact. Examples of physical sexual harassment may include touching, patting, pinching, bumping,
    grabbing, cornering or blocking a passageway, kissing, and providing unsolicited back or neck rubs. Sexual assault and
    rape, which may be extreme forms of sexual harassment, are serious criminal acts. When these acts occur, report them
    immediately to the chain of command, military police, or other law enforcement agencies.

    http://www.sexualassault.army.mil/fi...0_chapter7.pdf
    Nothing even remotely similar to opening doors.

    Face it, you're getting completely pulverized in this debate by everyone. You have provided no evidence for any of your claims, you've denied you ever made arguments after they have been demolished, and even the documents that you cite (like this one) completely blow your argument out of the water. Why don't you just lay low for a while?
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    Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got those shower docs? I mean, put up, or shutup. Don't be a hypocrite.
    I was basing it on my experiences, but for you, a source: Women in the Military: Deployment in ... - Google Books

    Now, how about your sources.

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