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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Right, no difference at all between John McCain, George Bush and Barrack Obama. Politicians are all crooked. What a shame the president has to be a politician, instead of an ordinary patriotic American like.....I don't know....Joe the Plumber.
    Hold on there ! Are you by chance referring to the same Jose de Plumber who asked recently why certain Senators were not hung ? Joe himself wants the contract to build the gallows.
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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think we all know how that turned out.
    Whats funny is all the major polices are being kept in place. If you hated Bush then you should hate Obama x4 just for Afghanistan alone.

    If you dont like debt or have any need for money then you should hate The current administration x8 really.
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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Whats funny is all the major polices are being kept in place. If you hated Bush then you should hate Obama x4 just for Afghanistan alone.

    If you dont like debt or have any need for money then you should hate The current administration x8 really.
    I know this is the current right wing mantra, but its just not true. Torture has stopped, troops are leaving Iraq, the recession has (knock wood) been controlled, health care is being addressed, tobacco is now regulated. It's disengenuous to point to issues that haven't been addressed and say "Obama is the same as Bush".

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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Was it this same superior mental capacity and reasoned logic that inspired conservatives to elect George Bush two times? And then excuse and support all his dumbass decisions and "gut" reactions as if the rest of us were just too stupid to understand Bush's elevated intellect?
    What were they supposed to do? Elect Al Gore or John Kerry!? There's a laugh.

    Fact is, you big-party stooges keep sending us the same elitist, statist slicksters over and over again.

    Yeh, let's stick to the facts. America just barely survived eight years of your party's great ideas and superior thinking. I think we all know how that turned out.
    Both parties are doing everything in their power to maintain and expand their control over this country and its citizenry. Only partisan buffoons like yourself are incapable of seeing this.

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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I know this is the current right wing mantra, but its just not true. Torture has stopped, troops are leaving Iraq, the recession has (knock wood) been controlled, health care is being addressed, tobacco is now regulated. It's disengenuous to point to issues that haven't been addressed and say "Obama is the same as Bush".
    The damage that was done by the fact that the torture stories came out is already taking effect so stopping torture is marginal.

    The recession is supposedly slowly down but we need an entire quarter to see it the trend is sustained.

    Not sure how much if any benefit "regulating" tobacco will produce. That will take 25 - 30 years minimum.

    Most importantly the trroops are actually not leaving Iraq yet they are leaving the cities. I could be wrong I was wrong once- last milenium.
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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I know this is the current right wing mantra, but its just not true. Torture has stopped, ".
    strike 1
    Obama Administration Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit

    "The Obama Administration today announced that it would keep the same position as the Bush Administration in the lawsuit Mohamed et al v Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc."
    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    troops are leaving Iraq,".
    strike 2

    They are NOT leaving Iraq.......They are leaving Iraqi cities and moving to permanent bases.


    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I
    the recession has (knock wood) been controlled,
    ".
    strike 3
    The recession was purposely created and "controlled" to pay the bankers trillions. The "people" are as bad off as ever.
    Economy index current
    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    health care is being addressed,
    ".
    BADLY

    "the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.
    The opposition, which comes as Mr. Obama prepares to address the powerful doctors’ group on Monday in Chicago, could be a major hurdle for advocates of a public insurance plan. The A.M.A., with about 250,000 members, is America’s largest physician organization. "

    Doctors dont know anything anyway I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    tobacco is now regulated.
    ".
    You have never seen the surgeon generals warning?
    Well it just got a little bigger....big deal. Show and flash for your entertainment.


    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It's disengenuous to point to issues that haven't been addressed and say "Obama is the same as Bush".

    That could be true but no one is doing that.


    Turn off the sound coming out of their jabbering mouths and look at what they DO....

    They are the SAME.
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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Was it this same superior mental capacity and reasoned logic that inspired conservatives to elect George Bush two times? And then excuse and support all his dumbass decisions and "gut" reactions as if the rest of us were just too stupid to understand Bush's elevated intellect?
    Yeh, let's stick to the facts. America just barely survived eight years of your party's great ideas and superior thinking. I think we all know how that turned out.
    Sorry to disappoint yet another Granola Liberal but Bush was elected and re-elected because the alternatives both times were frightening. Al "I invented the internet" Gore claimed to be an environmentalist and had critically needed water drained form reservoir in the middle of a drought for a photo op on a canoe. Al "stiff as a board" Gore was not then nor is he today any better a choice than the wholly un qualified "Amateur in Chief" Socialist Obama. Then we have Kerry who once again was a liar and turned into another blame America firster. And, I much to your surprise I'll bet did not and do not like Bush or many of his policies including the invasion of Iraq and the pushing and passing of the Misnamed Patriot Acts I and II.
    What we need them and now is a Statesman who can put the needs for security, and the needs of the people before the whims of any goofy party. We need someone who can weigh those needs with balance them with environmental concerns and not rely on lies like Obama has done repeatedly to get his way on the Cap on Trade, Growth, Jobs, and any hope of Economic recovery. Sadly John McCain is not that person either.
    Lack of ones own ability for Logical thought should not be projected onto others. And the use it does not always insure perfect results. When all factors are taken into consideration voting for the lessor of two dumb asses is not an ideal situation but we did survive the Bush years. However at the rate the Usurper in Chief is moving us toward a Socialist Dictatorship we may not survive if steps are not taken very soon. We have seen in recent days how Obama wants another want to be Dictator in Honduras returned to power after he was removed under the Constitution there by their Supreme Court. In doing so he has once again aligned himself with Hugo Chavez. Come on it's not racket science to see what's going and that it's time to stop fighting because party affiliations and start looking at the big picture and what is good for the Nation.

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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    strike 1
    Obama Administration Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit

    "The Obama Administration today announced that it would keep the same position as the Bush Administration in the lawsuit Mohamed et al v Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc."


    strike 2

    They are NOT leaving Iraq.......They are leaving Iraqi cities and moving to permanent bases.



    strike 3
    The recession was purposely created and "controlled" to pay the bankers trillions. The "people" are as bad off as ever.
    Economy index current

    BADLY

    "the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.
    The opposition, which comes as Mr. Obama prepares to address the powerful doctors’ group on Monday in Chicago, could be a major hurdle for advocates of a public insurance plan. The A.M.A., with about 250,000 members, is America’s largest physician organization. "

    Doctors dont know anything anyway I guess.


    You have never seen the surgeon generals warning?
    Well it just got a little bigger....big deal. Show and flash for your entertainment.





    That could be true but no one is doing that.


    Turn off the sound coming out of their jabbering mouths and look at what they DO....

    They are the SAME.
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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Jesus, were you even alive then? Ronald Reagan took office on January 20, 1981. Most 7th graders would know that.



    So I was a year off.... No need to pout and throw a tantrum.


    How does that change the fact you were completley wrong and posted evidence that helped me?
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    Re: Obama Approval Index Falls Below Zero...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thank you Rev, I rest my case using your own words.

    By the way, I did not say it was too early to criticize Obama(almost missed that, very slick if extremely dishonest of you).



    Are you feeling ok? You seem to be getting nasty with me latley.



    Chill, this is only debate, don't get all Will Rockwell on me!
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