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    Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Micheletti, after coming under stern criticism from Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, said, “Nobody scares us,” warning Honduras is prepared to “go to war” if “this gentlemen” interferes, according to the Telegraph.
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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    There seem to be massive conflicts in the stories surfacing as to what has actually taken place. Obama's statements side with Hugo Chavez that Mr Zelaya's removal was illegal. However news reports clearly contradict their view stating that the removal was done within the the laws of the land to protect the Constitution.
    At least one report said that Mr Zelaya had ordered the military to arrest the Supreme court as they resisted his efforts to maintain his power past the one term allowed under their Constitution that is in place to prevent a dictatorship from gaining and holding onto power.
    Could it be that want to be Dictator in Chief fears that he could be removed from office when people wake to all the questionable take overs he's already orchestrated with GM, Chrysler, and control over the banking industry and the move currently under way to take over control of health care? And to top it off he's trying to destroy the economy further with Cap in Trade that will, if past kill any chance of economic recovery? Why else would he back a potentially seriously dangerous dictator in waiting and leftist and embrace the views of Hugo Chavez against the Supreme Court of a sovereign Country.

    Then we have the stories;
    Honduras supreme court 'ordered army coup' - Telegraph
    "Today's events originate from a court order by a competent judge. The armed forces, in charge of supporting the constitution, acted to defend the state of law and have been forced to apply legal dispositions against those who have expressed themselves publicly and acted against the dispositions of the basic law," the country's highest court said.

    Still from another source; Honduras Supreme Court says it ordered presidents' ouster_English_Xinhua

    TEGUCIGALPA, June 28 (Xinhua) -- Honduran Supreme Court said Sunday that it has authorized the removal from office of President Manuel Zelaya and the nation's armed force has acted in defense of the rule of law.

    "Legal authorities formally declare that if the source of the action taken today is a judicial order issued by a competent judge, then their execution is within the framework of legal precepts," read broadcaster HRN from a statement issued by Danilo Izaguirre, a Supreme Court spokesman.

    Such an order "must also oppose anything that may stand in the way of Honduras being returned to the rule of law," the statement said.

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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    can't believe this isn't a hotter topic

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Honduras is Honduras's Problem.
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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    I think it's clear the president was trying to subvert their constitution, and therefore the will of the people. He wanted more than his entitled term.
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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Honduras is Honduras's Problem.
    you are correct, up until the point that Dear Leader backed the President who allegedly is trying to violate their Constitution. More poor choices of the chosen one, or maybe he wants the sheeple to think that violating the constitution is no big deal now, so it is no big deal as he does it

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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    you are correct, up until the point that Dear Leader backed the President who allegedly is trying to violate their Constitution. More poor choices of the chosen one, or maybe he wants the sheeple to think that violating the constitution is no big deal now, so it is no big deal as he does it
    We should seriously go back to more of an isolationist stance on foreign politics.
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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    We should seriously go back to more of an isolationist stance on foreign politics.
    I would prefer nonintervention than isolation
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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it's clear the president was trying to subvert their constitution, and therefore the will of the people. He wanted more than his entitled term.
    Some information about the constitution:

    Honduran constitutions are generally held to have little bearing on Honduran political reality because they are considered aspirations or ideals rather than legal instruments of a working government. The constitution essentially provides for the separation of powers among the three branches of government, but in practice the executive branch generally dominates both the legislative and judicial branches of government.
    Honduras - THE CONSTITUTION

    So maybe what Zelaya was doing was just business as usual, the only difference was that he pisssed of the military, economical and political elite. Also if he was so despised by the people they would have lost the non binding referendum and be out of power by next year.

    Some more information about the constitution by the same link:


    The Honduran constitution, the sixteenth since independence from Spain, entered into force on January 20, 1982. Just a week before, Honduras had ended ten years of military rule with the inauguration of civilian president Roberto Suazo Córdova. The constitution was completed on January 11, 1982, by a seventy-one-seat Constituent Assembly that had been elected on April 20, 1980, under the military junta of Policarpo Paz Garcí.
    So it's not far fetch to believe that the military junta that ruled the country before had some influence on the drafting of the constitution. So maybe it could be heard what the people believed about the constitution know almost thirty years after the military left power. But maybe the military though it to be to soon.

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    Re: Honduras leader says country ready to ‘go to war’ as riots flare

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    So maybe what Zelaya was doing was just business as usual, the only difference was that he pisssed of the military, economical and political elite. Also if he was so despised by the people they would have lost the non binding referendum and be out of power by next year.
    I've been wondering about this "non binding referendum". How is such a documend/bill/law/whatever of any use to anyone, except to say "we who have voted for this want it this way, but are not requiring you to do what we say".

    I mean...if it's non binding, why did people get upset over it?

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