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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yeah this happened under Bush. The funny thing about that is I heard Cheney on the news this morning complaining about how this was going to give the insurgents fuel to launch more attacks and that withdrawing troops may not be the best plan. Um ok Dick, that plan was under your watch.
    Who gives a crap what the insurgents do, there are insurgents in dozens of countries all over the world, and none of them are our problem.

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    We'll just have to wait and see. If Iraq stays peaceful, with no significant al-Qaeda presence, or at least nothing the Iraqi military can't handle, then we will have won.
    Just curious...

    If in 2020, Iraq falls into chaos, does that mean we lost?
    2030?

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Who gives a crap what the insurgents do, there are insurgents in dozens of countries all over the world, and none of them are our problem.
    Apparently Dick Cheney cares. Who knew?



    That was so unbelievably hard to type Cheney and cares in the same sentence. However- Cheney and dick was rather easy.
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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Just curious...

    If in 2020, Iraq falls into chaos, does that mean we lost?
    2030?
    I think if we've already won the War on Terror (or whatever it's called now) it won't matter.

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I think if we've already won the War on Terror (or whatever it's called now) it won't matter.
    That doesnt really answer my question...?

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That doesnt really answer my question...?
    It does. If Iraq falls in 10 years, and we've won the War on Terror by then, then I don't think it will be a defeat. If we haven't won the War on Terror, then it probably will be seen as a defeat.

    That said, "win" and "lose" are hard terms to use in this situation. We technically "won" the moment we got Hussein out of power, we just had a lot of trouble with the aftermath.

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Apparently Dick Cheney cares. Who knew?



    That was so unbelievably hard to type Cheney and cares in the same sentence. However- Cheney and dick was rather easy.
    Dick Cheney has his own "agenda", which does not run parallel with what is best for America.

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Who gives a crap what the insurgents do, there are insurgents in dozens of countries all over the world, and none of them are our problem.
    The Clinton adminstration thought that about Afghanistan and the Taliban. How did that work out for us?

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    It does. If Iraq falls in 10 years, and we've won the War on Terror by then, then I don't think it will be a defeat. If we haven't won the War on Terror, then it probably will be seen as a defeat.

    That said, "win" and "lose" are hard terms to use in this situation. We technically "won" the moment we got Hussein out of power, we just had a lot of trouble with the aftermath.
    I'd like to put this comment in perspective:

    We technically "won" the moment we got Hussein out of power, we just had a lot of trouble with the aftermath.

    We only had trouble with the “aftermath” as it has been defined by the Liberals and drive-by media.

    Apparently, the Liberal media and a majority of uninformed Americans think that we can and should only fight wars where we can accurately predict the outcome and have ZERO losses.

    But then, that is not the REAL world and is a testament to the failure of our media and education systems to inform and to teach.

    This is why I will NEVER support any further intervention of American troops ANYWHERE regardless of which party is in control unless it is the result of a direct attack on our soil. The American people have shown that they are incapable of supporting our military in such efforts and are more inclined to be fooled by a Liberal media who always cheered American failures and kowtowed to America's enemies.

    They didn't want us involved in WWI, they didn't want us involved in WWII, they didn't want us involved in Korea, they didn't want us involved in Vietnam and they didn't want us involved in Kuwait.

    They only wanted us involved 9-11 for the first few weeks. After that, they claimed they were against the war before they were for it.

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    Re: Fireworks over Baghdad as Iraqis take over cities

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    We do NOT belong in Iraq.
    The moment we dissolved their government we assumed responsibility for Iraq's future stability. We will stay until the damn job is finished. Unless we achieve victory all our sacrifices will have been in vain.

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