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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Friggin' Democrats.

    What's their complaint about California?



    According to those maggots, the problem California has is that the politicians can't raise taxes faster than they can spend money.

    Californians are taxed more than anyone else in the entire country.

    Low taxes aren't the problem here.
    California does have high taxes, but are 9th in the top 10. New Jersey and New York are the highest. I am a Democrat, but my problem with California is the same as the rest of the country. These states are not living within their means. Stop the deficit spending and then you can lower taxes, like the Dakotas and Alaska, that have the lowest taxes in the country and do not even tax incomes.

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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    And how do you purpose to do that if they are illegal.

    Mexico is going to give the crooks a free pass on immigration just to get rid of them.

    Cost of illegals in California 10 billion a year and rising.That's one third of the deficient now,and is a major reason for it.

    Tell the people on welfare no work, no money,don't like the job, find yourself a better job and get off welfare.
    We should have better control over our borders. We definitely should get rid of welfare since it would destroy an incentive to come over.

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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you suggesting that halting the death penalty will save the state money?
    Absolutely....it costs Billions to have a death penalty. Isn't life in prison without the possibility of parole enough?

    When you have a death penalty, you have to make absolutely sure you are making the right decision. Especially when you have case after case after case being found to be wrongly decided with new DNA technology.

    If the state simply got out of the killing business the state would save billions of dollars.
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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Limit the number of appeals, and pull the trigger when the appeals run out, saving tons of money, but nothing more than a drop in the bucket of California's spending problem.
    This response just shows how little you know about the justice system. The cost is not in the appeal...the cost is in the prosecution.

    A murder charge without the death penalty usually goes to trial in about a year.
    A special circumstance/death penalty case usually takes about 4-5 years to prosecute because of the penalty phase portion of the trial.
    When death is the punishment, our system requires the prosecution to show that the aggravation outweighs any mitigating factors. Because death is absolute, it raises the stakes substantially higher than other cases.
    With the additional investigation ...etc. It costs about 10x as much to prosecute a death penalty case. If the state simply said that spending the rest of your life in a 10x4 cell was punishment enough.....we would save billions.
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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Yes, but there are barriers to entry, most importantly is minimum wage. If they are not worth minimum wage, then they will have to work long hours and many will not be employed. It's as simple as that.
    If they're US citizens, it will be illegal to pay them less than minimum wage. If they're US citizens, they will also be able to go after jobs that they wouldn't be able to get, as illegals.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    They are already working. They are just able to evade the taxes that go along with working.

    What is the negative of taxing an already established work force that is currently not paying taxes?

    They're also able to work for $3.00 per hour, too. Wouldn't a pay hike cause our food prices to go through the roof? That's the argument that the Libbos have used to defend illegal labor all these years. Is not as true now?

    If we're going to pay them minimum wage, anway, let's jsut deport all of them and give those jobs to actual American citizens.



    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely....it costs Billions to have a death penalty. Isn't life in prison without the possibility of parole enough?

    When you have a death penalty, you have to make absolutely sure you are making the right decision. Especially when you have case after case after case being found to be wrongly decided with new DNA technology.

    If the state simply got out of the killing business the state would save billions of dollars.

    If we're not executing them, they we're not spedning money on a death row...LOL!!!!

    Especially when you have case after case after case being found to be wrongly decided with new DNA technology.
    DNA can be used to find them guilty beyond all doubt, as well. Ready to go ahead an smoke those ones???
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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they're US citizens, it will be illegal to pay them less than minimum wage. If they're US citizens, they will also be able to go after jobs that they wouldn't be able to get, as illegals.
    What's your point? Minimum wage will still affect US citizens.

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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If we're not executing them, they we're not spedning money on a death row...LOL!!!!



    DNA can be used to find them guilty beyond all doubt, as well. Ready to go ahead an smoke those ones???
    Actually....thank you....you raised a point that I forgot.
    It costs more to house an inmate on death row awaiting execution than it does to simply house them in high security general population for the rest of their life.

    The higher security.....higher guard wage pay is another issue that simply doing away with the death penalty would save.

    If Arnold had the balls....he would simply say that the death penalty is a luxury that the State cannot afford.
    Life without the possibility of parole is probably a harsher penalty anyways....and would save the state billions.
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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If Arnold had the balls....he would simply say that the death penalty is a luxury that the State cannot afford.
    Life without the possibility of parole is probably a harsher penalty anyways....and would save the state billions.

    Not an expert here on that matter as far as ACTUAL costs, but what would you say a state would save on that, and would it be really worth doing?

    What I mean is if the death row costs an equivalent 5 cents to a $200.00 budget that doesn't amount to very much change or bang for the buck.

    Where is the main money being spent? Because that is what really has to be looked at then. If Death row is costing a big amount compared to what needs to be cut , then I say go for it, cut it.

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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Can you imagine what the rioting will look like in the ghettos when those welfare checks stop going out? Holy moly

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    Re: Washington to California: Drop dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Can you imagine what the rioting will look like in the ghettos when those welfare checks stop going out? Holy moly
    Imagine: a world where you actually have to take on responsibility.

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