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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    Good ruling, this should sink her confirmation and Obama will be forced to pick a centrist judge.
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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    My question, in light of this decision, is whether Sotomayor made her ruling colored by emotion rather than by the law. If this is the case, then she should not be confirmed.
    I thought she was better equipped to rule on these issues than white justices.
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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Good ruling, this should sink her confirmation and Obama will be forced to pick a centrist judge.
    LMAO! Sink her confirmation? Are you serious?

    Puleeeeeeeze, chevydriver. Come back to reality, will you?

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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    What bugs me about this is that if she didn't think her rich experiences as a latino woman made her so wise she may have actually made the right choice. This proves that her stance on race issues is completely biased.

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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Just think, if she was already confirmed, it would have been the other way.


    Scary.
    Yeah, she's have to recuse herself, and it would a tie, right?
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    Top Court Rules for Firefighters On Exam

    In a 5-4 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of New Haven's firefighters who had been denied a promotion after passing a promotion examination. CNBC reported:

    The Supreme Court has ruled that white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., were unfairly denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision that high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor endorsed as an appeals court judge.

    New Haven was wrong to scrap a promotion exam because no African-Americans and only two Hispanic firefighters were likely to be made lieutenants or captains based on the results, the court said Monday in a 5-4 decision.
    Top Court Rules for Firefighters On Exam - Law and Regulation * US * News * Story - CNBC.com

    The opinion can be found at: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinio...df/07-1428.pdf

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    High Court Rules for White Firefighters in Discrimination Suit

    The Supreme Court today narrowly ruled in favor of white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., who said they were denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision by Judge Sonia Sotomayor and others that had come to play a large role in the consideration of her nomination for the high court.

    The city had thrown out the results of a promotion test because no African Americans and only two Hispanics would have qualified for promotions. It said it feared a lawsuit from minorities under federal laws that said such "disparate impacts" on test results could be used to show discrimination.

    In effect, the court was deciding when avoiding potential discrimination against one group amounted to actual discrimination against another.

    The court's conservative majority said in a 5 to 4 vote that is what happened in New Haven.

    "Fear of litigation alone cannot justify an employer's reliance on race to the detriment of individuals who passed the examinations and qualified for promotions," wrote Justice Anthony M. Kennedy.

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the liberals on the court and said the decision knocks the pegs from Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

    She read her dissent from the bench for emphasis. "Congress endeavored to promote equal opportunity in fact, and not simply in form," she said. "The damage today's decision does to that objective is untold."

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    Awesome! This was a clear case of racial discrimination plain and simple. It annoys me that the Supreme Court only came to a 5 to 4 decision on this. How anyone could suggest that these firefighters weren't denied their promotions based on their race is beyond me. Ginsburg reasoning in her dissent defies logic. We are not promoting equal opportunity by denying more qualified people a job they rightly deserve. Furthermore, we are talking about firefighters. These are men who responsible for peoples' lives. Do we really want less qualified firemen in control? That flies in the face of common sense.

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    Re: High Court Rules for White Firefighters in Discrimination Suit

    As I understand it, firefighting is a not only a male dominated profession, it's also a white dominated profession.

    I think it may have to do with Irish settlers manning the first fire stations? I have nothing but a fleeting memory of a long ago modern marvels to go on, so if someone has contrary information I stand corrected.

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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    How a Judge rules before getting a job in the Supreme court is not 100% accurate in how they will judge in the Supreme court where the tradition,heritage, history, and power of the Supreme court will humble even the most extreme views.
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    Re: Justices Rule for White Firefighters in Bias Case

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, she's have to recuse herself, and it would a tie, right?
    What a fascinating scenario that would have been. If it was a tie.....RightatNYU, remind me, the appeals court decision then stands, yes? (I'm too lazy to look it up.)

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