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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Ugh, is that another Cashman reference? That got tiresome a while ago.
    Seeing the drivel you posted on this thread one has to wonder how you think the kidnapper and attempted child rapist should be punished if he is found guilty.
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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Child rapists are scum. No question.

    They are, however, like the rest of us, innocent until proven guilty.

    Justin Shine should have a vigorous defense--not because of his rights, but because of everyone else's rights.
    One of those trials concluding where he's asked, "is there anything you want to say before we hang you?"

    Violent pedophiles should be executed.

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz Peeps View Post
    Because we live in a system of law and order and we must respect due process. Unless you want to live like a group savages like this was lord of the flies, you must accept that fact.
    I don't believe in our system of law and order. Its a huge failure on almost every level. "The law" rarely protects anyone. Innocent people arrested have to plea out just to get out of jail. The punishment of those who are guilty rarely has any preventative effect and instead mostly punishes families, children and taxpayers. It is a massive legal industry treadmill having little to do with justice or due process. Due process isn't even relevant in over 90% of cases. Plea out or don't. It certainly doesn't treat people equally. Rather it is a system out of control.

    I don't believing it the law-God or the slogans of it. I do believe in jungle justice.
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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    double post

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Punishment for various crimes exist to adequately punish those who have broken certain. There is nothing wrong with executions,life in prison and other punishments. Criminals are not hospital patients, they are criminals and therefore should be treated like criminals.
    The primary purpose of criminal justice (whether through punishment or rehabilitation), must always focus on rational deterrence theory, and thus create appropriate means of deterring additional crime. Mere emotional whims have the capacity to undermine that purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Some of these child molesters do kill their victims and this was before many states started enacted capital punishment for them(which some twits in SC overturned those laws). So the "oh he might murder little Timmy instead of just raping him if he knows he might get executed for it" is a load of crap.
    Not at all. It's a matter of rational deterrence theory, and the same argument pertains to inflicting the death penalty on those who commit single murders; it provides a perverse incentive for such a person to commit additional murders and violently resist attempts at police capture. The fact that some rapists kill their victims anyway has little impact on the argument that a perverse incentive would be provided for all rapists to kill their victims if capital punishment was the penalty for rape.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing the drivel you posted on this thread one has to wonder how you think the kidnapper and attempted child rapist should be punished if he is found guilty.
    In whatever manner would have a general effect of deterring kidnapping and rape.

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Those who rape children are not human, nor do they deserve to be treated as such. Somebody call the Orkin man.
    People have often gotten up in arms when I've said that some people need killing, but this is a good example of someone who doesn't deserve to breathe good air or walk around upright.

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Violent pedophiles should be executed.
    As long as the punishment for killing children provides sufficient deterrent that molesters have reason to leave their victims alive, I'm satisfied. I'm just not going to sacrifice more victims in order to sate my bloodlust.

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    As long as the punishment for killing children provides sufficient deterrent that molesters have reason to leave their victims alive, I'm satisfied. I'm just not going to sacrifice more victims in order to sate my bloodlust.
    Interestint point you had earlier.

    Perhaps if we make it life in prison without the possiblity of parole for child molesters, it would be MORE of a deterant than the death penalty.
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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    As long as the punishment for killing children provides sufficient deterrent that molesters have reason to leave their victims alive, I'm satisfied. I'm just not going to sacrifice more victims in order to sate my bloodlust.

    Okay...simple death by hanging for child molestation...we'll even let it be a drop.

    For molesting and killing a child, I'd go with slow impalement.

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    Re: Prosecutor: 6-year-old girl in leg shackles escapes from would-be rapist in US

    Works for me.

    Personally, I was thinking physical and chemical castration followed by probation for life, versus the lethal injection.

    Then again, I'm only cruel out of efficiency, not sadism.

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