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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I think that if the CIA were so capable that they could turn someone into an internet martyr, we would NOT have the international relation problems we have today.
    If the CIA did it, which I seriously doubt, they should have the awe and respect of persons the world over for their amazing ability to read the waves of the global populace.

    I suspect blind luck led poor Neda to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Though the nature of conspiracy theories of this nature is that the pre-fooled will believe most anything no matter how shaky or improbable.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    I would think it would be unwise to rule out false flaggers. Why would your own plains clothes operative shoot an innocent woman just to fuel fire against them? But then again maybe it was some pissed off radical who was just mad that she was even there.

    But, we know CIA and Mossad are already there so to rule out the possibility of predetermined assassination for the sake of creating choas would be foolish. But it sorta requires a bit of proof.


    Keith Thomson: The Mossad's Plan to Stop Iran
    I asked my source: What's being done to thwart Iran?

    Answer: Penetration of the Iranian nuclear apparatus at the highest levels. The basic precepts are as old as Sun-Tzu. The CIA is trying. The Mossad is more successful.

    Q: Does the Mossad use its own operatives or foreign agents?

    A: Agents -- Iranian nationals who work in Iran in a capacity that enables them to travel around the country at will.

    Q: How does the Mossad recruit Iranian agents?

    A: The recruitment of an Iranian source by a Mossad officer admitting to be Israeli is very, very difficult. The best method is using a false flag -- going by a different nationality. Perhaps you use a Persian-looking guy who is fluent in Farsi to pose as an Iranian. Or your officer poses as an officer of one of the intelligence services with whom Iran has good relationships, like the French. Or maybe you recruit an actual Frenchman to serve as your principal agent, and he in turn recruits the Iranian. The question is: What is your Iranian traveling-salesman type receptive to?
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I would think it would be unwise to rule out false flaggers. Why would your own plains clothes operative shoot an innocent woman just to fuel fire against them? But then again maybe it was some pissed off radical who was just mad that she was even there.

    But, we know CIA and Mossad are already there so to rule out the possibility of predetermined assassination for the sake of creating choas would be foolish. But it sorta requires a bit of proof.


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    The CIA doesn't have any operation in Iran at all that I can tell you as a fact.

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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: Israel News


    Neda Agha-Soltan, 27
    Shot to death in Tehran by the Basij
    "It burned me" were her last words

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    btw: A haunting new movie - The Stoning of Soraya M. - is being released this weekend in cities across the United States. It tells the story of an Iranian woman who was brutalized by her husband, accused of adultry, and stoned to death. If you see this film... be prepared to be disturbed. In the approximately 20 minutes during which the graphic execution unfolds, the camera repeatedly returns to study the battered face and body of Soraya as she is stoned to death. Buried up to her waist in a hole dug for the occasion, she is pelted with rocks and profanity by the male villagers including her father, husband, and two sons, until she dies. In one of the disturbing scenes, Ali examines his wife’s crumpled blood-drenched body to make sure she is dead and discovers signs of life in a rolled-up eye. The stoning is promptly resumed. The film is a cinematic adaption of the 1994 best seller "The Stoning of Soraya M. - A True Story" by Paris based Iranian journalist Freidoune Sahebjam. I warn you in advance, this film is brutally extreme and powerful. Rated R.

    I will go to see this movie next weekend.

    The ambassadors acusations are ridiculas. Surely the iranian people can see through this.

    Also today Iran has arrested 8 British Embassy staff members. The Fars news agency said the eight staff members were arrested for having a "considerable role" in the riots.

    Looks like Iran is attempting to sway public opinion of the the military dictatorship by blaming the west.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I would think it would be unwise to rule out false flaggers. Why would your own plains clothes operative shoot an innocent woman just to fuel fire against them? But then again maybe it was some pissed off radical who was just mad that she was even there.

    But, we know CIA and Mossad are already there so to rule out the possibility of predetermined assassination for the sake of creating choas would be foolish. But it sorta requires a bit of proof.


    Keith Thomson: The Mossad's Plan to Stop Iran


    Of course it was the great satan behind the death of Neda. We all know that America is to blame for everything evil that happens in the world.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Why refer to "America"? That implies homogenous opinion and will regarding the events in Iran among all Americans as an element of national identity. The reality is that the CIA is a government agency with a role in many situations that doesn't reflect the will of most Americans.

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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Why refer to "America"? That implies homogenous opinion and will regarding the events in Iran among all Americans as an element of national identity. The reality is that the CIA is a government agency with a role in many situations that doesn't reflect the will of most Americans.
    Whatcha talkin' about.
    CIA is a government ruled agency, the American government represent the American people.
    Hence, the CIA represents the American people.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Whatcha talkin' about.
    CIA is a government ruled agency, the American government represent the American people.
    Hence, the CIA represents the American people.
    No it represents those that tell the CIA what to do. And that surely isn't all of the American people.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    No it represents those that tell the CIA what to do. And that surely isn't all of the American people.
    Now you're just trying to avoid one of Democracy's lone disadvantages.
    The government in a Democracy, whether if some people agree with it or not, represents the people.
    That way, the people rule the nation, which is Democracy's aim.
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    Re: Iran accuses CIA of killing protestor Neda

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Why refer to "America"? That implies homogenous opinion and will regarding the events in Iran among all Americans as an element of national identity. The reality is that the CIA is a government agency with a role in many situations that doesn't reflect the will of most Americans.
    Do you not realize Irans leaders are in damage control mode. They are attempting to blame the west for their tyranny. Do you honestly believe that the CIA killed Neda? Or is it your modus operandi to blame the United States for everything wrong with the world?
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