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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So when are you heading to Iran to help? Or are you just wanting to send others to do what you want done?
    I am a minor, I can not do anything. It is going to take more power than me, it is going to take a world leading country to denounce the regime and back the protesters.

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Hmmmm so this is the situation:

    So Iranian government terrorizes citizens equals bad, and U.S. MUST intervene. However, when in Darfur the government was killing thousands and displacing and terrorizing millions of people from their homes via genocide equals don't care, let someone else handle it.

    Interesting.
    The U.S. was the first to label the darfur situation as a genocide and pushed hard for UN intervention. We were a little tied up to do anything ourselves as you might recall we were involved in two wars at the time.

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The U.S. was the first to label the darfur situation as a genocide and pushed hard for UN intervention. We were a little tied up to do anything ourselves as you might recall we were involved in two wars at the time.
    How many wars are we tied up in now?
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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Are you joking?

    US and UK has a history of interfering with Iran.
    Why do you think Iran's Ayotollah has targeted Britain especially. Iran's distrust of UK and US in some way is rooting in Britain's imperialist history.

    1813 and the Treaty of Gulistan where Britain humilated Iran,
    Um the Treaty of Gulistan was Russian not British.

    Britain played a key role in setting Iran's borders, overthrew a Government with US help and installed a dictator - which was removed later by the Islamic revolution, exploitation of their oil.
    Um the U.S. didn't install the Shah that would be the U.K. I guess his father shouldn't have been a Hitler sympathizer. Anyways Mossadeq is the one who overthrew the Iranian government when he dissolved parliament in a fraudulent referendum in which he garnered a 99.9% yea vote.

    And lets not forget Iraq! Funding Saddam and looked the other way when Saddam broke UN law and allowed Saddam to get away with using gas ...

    Yeah, we have not meddled ...
    U.S., U.K. support for Saddam did not include funding him, we did, however, sell him dual use items which he would later convert to military use after the fact. The Soviets were the major arms dealers to Iraq not the U.S. or the U.K..

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    In 1951 if i remember my dates and history correctly Mossadegh was elected as Prime Minister where at the time, Iran was growing more nationalistic and wanted to nationalize the oil supplies, this was dangerous and alarmed Britain as it relied on Iran's oil.
    It tried a coup and failed and as a result Churchill turned to US for help but Truman refused but Eisenhower had no problem with it and overthrew Iran's elected Government and installed the shah which led to us losing Iran as an ally and in turn we turned to Iraq and Saddam.
    Mossadeq was not exactly elected he was appointed by the Shah and ratified by the Majiles. And after obtaining power he used it to destroy the Iranian Constitutional Monarchy by dissolving parliament through a fraudulent referendum.

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    How many wars are we tied up in now?
    Two which is why the U.S. can't send in the military, however, we can clandestinely fund, arm, train, and provide logistical support to the revolutionaries.

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Mohammad Taghi Mesbah Yazdi (Ahmadinejads spirtual advisor) and member of Irans Assembly of Experts (resposible for chosing the supreme leader) are both members of a group called Hojjatieh. They are Twelvers who believe that they can pave the way for the return of the Mahdi (Tweltfh Imam). They intend to do this by plunging the world into chaos.

    Yazdi has publicly endorsed a military nuclear program in Iran. Yazadi sanctioned the recent election. Along with Moitaba Khamenei they intend to eliminate Rafsanjani (Head of the Assembly of Experts).

    Many of you have no idea what so ever what I am talking about here. I am talking about a coup. It is taking place as we speak. These men are a danger and a threat to the entire world. They want to bring about Armageddon.

    The elections in Iran threatend there plan and they will stop at nothing to see it through.
    That's a lot of conspiracy theories in one post.

    My thoughts on Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah are that they are men that want power, have power, and will do anything to keep power. I'm not so sure their ultimate goal is Armageddon though.
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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Two which is why the U.S. can't send in the military, however, we can clandestinely fund, arm, train, and provide logistical support to the revolutionaries.
    And if those Revolutionaries don't care to devote what it takes to have a successful revolution? Yes they want to protest but are they willing to fight, kill, and most likely die for a new government and then keep hold of that government?

    Also are you OK with outside countries jump starting revolutions and civil wars in other countries?
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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Two which is why the U.S. can't send in the military, however, we can clandestinely fund, arm, train, and provide logistical support to the revolutionaries.
    I think something should be done, and we should back the protesters. But this idea rings of the Bay of Pigs Invasion, which was a major disaster. We should proceed to take some action, but we should proceed with caution.

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    Re: Iran: Night Raids Terrorize Civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    That's a lot of conspiracy theories in one post.

    My thoughts on Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah are that they are men that want power, have power, and will do anything to keep power. I'm not so sure their ultimate goal is Armageddon though.
    Um that's the entire backbone behind the twelver sect within Islam IE twelvers believe that the 12th Iman will come when the world is in a state of chaos and instill order and bring the entire world into the fold of dar al-Islam. They, also, believe that humanity can help sew this chaos to hasten the coming of the Mahdi.

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