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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    With government subsidies, I'm sure.
    Of course, and nothing wrong in that.
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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Dems will ahve to run someone in PBO's place, just to get someone, anyone, elected. All the damage he's doing to the country and no one is going to vote for his silly ass.
    Don't count on that.

    The media is doing everything they can to carry the Messiah's urine, including the gift of free informercial time, just this week, and a free ride on every issue that's come up.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    So, tell me, have you read this bill? You seem to be quite the expert, so clearly you must have read this in it's entirety as well as every other piece of legislature that passes through congress that you seem to have such expert opinions about. If you have read this and every other bill that you've argued adamantly for or against, I withdraw my statement, but if you have only read political cliff notes then the hypocrisy of this statement is absolutely absurd. Granted, it is equally ridiculous when bills are passed through congress with much less than a glance at said legislature, but unless you have done it yourself, you have no leg to stand on.
    Nonsense.

    A citizen isn't required to read a door-stop of a bill to know that it's bad.

    In fact, if it can't be read in a reasonable period of time, it's poorly written, overly broad, and too encompassing to be anything resembling a good bill and should be nixed on those concerns alone.

    Also, the intent of this bill is to force businesses to pay more money for energy, and thus force the people to pay more, for no other reason than the advancement of religious issues of concern only to the left.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Correction. It is a huge victory for the ignorant.
    No correction needed.

    He did say it was for "the Obama administration".

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Can't the bill still fail in the senate?
    Not likely.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    CYes well if climate change only affected US and only US then i'd be happy to allow you lot to screw your living space but unfortunately it affects the world.
    Well, GLOBAL WARMING is potentially affected by CO2 concentrations.

    Since the earth is in a cooling trend, there's no point in passing new legislation condeming the US economy to control CO2 emissions.

    Also, "climate change" is a perpetual process, not subject to demonstrable human influence, and, also, no one's defined what the optimal climate is, the United States has absolutely no responsiblity for altering it's behavior to make the climate of Britain and Europe more optimal (unless you pay us plenty), and other such similar concerns.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    I wonder why the EPA doesn't want this information public.

    CEI Releases Global Warming Study Censored by EPA | CEI

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    One thing to remember is that C02 pollution mainly comes from coal and oil. Two resources their the supply will continue to decrease and their the demand will increase if somethings isn't done. A large part of the worlds oil is also in unstable countries and/or countries hostile to the USA. That for long term economy benefits it can be really be good to decrease the dependence of oil and coal.
    A VERY important thing to remember is that CO2 is not a pollutant.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by underdog334 View Post
    why ted kennedy doesn't want windmills near him:
    Size
    In reality, Massachussetts only has room for one blowhard.

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    Re: House narrowly passes major energy-climate bill

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    This is basically all I am hearing out of these right wing posters. Amazing.
    What you are hearing is:

    The bill is unnecessary. (Undisputable fact).

    The bill intrudes on areas not subject to federal authority (per the Constitution).

    The bill will raise energy costs to everyone. (You refuse to address this)

    The bill will not halt the release of one single carbon dioxide molecule.

    The bill will create more government bureaucracy, which is always inefficient.

    The bill transfers power from the people to the politicians.

    Which of the above, all undisputable, do you support?

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