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    Re: US will not use force to inspect N. Korean ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    Eh, prove that this is the case with auto unions (i.e. that they're not effective at being unions).
    The auto unions recieved how many billions from PBO? Hmm? I rest my case.



    It's not a stupid question. Your stupid proposal would lead to Americans dying (not to mention civilians in other countries). They're ran by a dictator who's about to step down. Don't think he's not crazy enough to attack the US. Also, you really think we could've stopped 9/11 with a stronger anti-terrorism program? Especially considering we knew about Osama Bin Laden for years before 9/11? It's been documented that we warned Bush several times about possible terroristic attacks from Bin Laden.
    I'm not concerned with the deaths of civilians in other countries. My number one concern is the safety of the American people. If civilians in other countries become collateral damage during American combat operations, that is the fault of the leadership of that country.

    Yes, had we not passed on the chance to capture/kill UBL three+ times, 9/11 may not have happened. Two American embassies were bombed in Africa. That's when we should have invaded Afghanistan and destroyed AQ and the Tallies.

    yes, Bush was warned of terrorist attacks by AQ. However the lack of the where, when and how and only 8 months to realign the gilflirted version of intelligence that he was left with wasn't enough to act.


    Do I understand adapt and overcome? Do you? What part of artificially changing the environment has to do with natural selection? Do you know how difficult it is to adapt to a situation as fast as people can change it? It takes generations. This is really a stupid argument. Let's throw poison into the air and say "if people can't adapt, then they're naturally selected to die off." Also, since when did marsh mice lead to people dying? What are you even getting at here? How many of your arguments are worth dead babies dying? <- that's also a stupid argument that is just sensationalism.
    How on earth is an environment artificially changed?


    Are you pretending to be ignorant or is it natural? We do fine protecting our own homeland (except 9/11 apparently, but you can blame that one on PBO). We already have money spent in all of these things. How do you suppose we fund another war?
    We did do a fine job of protecting the country. I don;t think that can be said, now. In a couple of years, the dilligence that has been created within out national security agencies will be eroded, opening the door for another attack on the same scale as 9/11.



    Protecting the country is wasting money if you do it in a stupid way. Why not just nuke every other country then? Surely we'd end up protecting our own country. But that's stupid isn't it?
    When I was in the service, we had a saying, "Make a decision, even if it's wrong." A bad decision is worse than no decision at all. PBO isn't being decisive. That is very dangerous for the nation.

    Also, I would imagine China's smart enough to attack us in a way that catches us offguard.
    Not conventionally. Besides, China doesn't want all that paper they've bought from us to suddenly become worthless in literally, just a few hours.
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    Re: US will not use force to inspect N. Korean ship

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're probably bluffing and I think we should call them on it. One way to find out.
    So you would risk war with North Korea and a least thousands of lives and at most millions on a "probably"?


    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they have deliverable nuclear weapons systems, then that's all the more reason for a pre-emptive strike. IMO, let me say that again so no one get's confused, IMO, the NK's don't have a rocket to act as the vehicle for a nuclear warhead. However, IMO, they can deliver a nuke with an aircraft. Simple solution, destroy everything that NK owns, that is capable of flight; everything as small as a Cessna 150 and as big as a C-5.
    What sources say they are delivering Nukes?

    So NK has the ability to strike Hawaii with a rocket but can't attach a nuclear warhead to rockets?

    Well I hope the DoD gives you a call soon. I'm sure they never thought that simply destroying North Korea will solve all our problems. BTW, how is it living in a black and white world?
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    Re: US will not use force to inspect N. Korean ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Polimaster View Post
    This is absolutely true. The cash now made in the US is not even backed up by gold anymore as it used to be. All trade with foreign countries is now based on their faith in the US dollar, this is another reason why the falling value of the dollar is a big issue. Most of the money in the world is not cash but rather not existent in a material way, it is just a bunch of numbers on a computer screen.


    Scary but true. Anyone really wanting to hurt us wouldnt need to kill anyone just set off a big EMP at the right spot. We would all be hating it then.
    Thank you

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    Re: US will not use force to inspect N. Korean ship

    MSNBC is reporting that the ship is turning around and heading back north after being tracked. Sometimes you don't need to do anything stupid like fire on the ship.
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    Re: US will not use force to inspect N. Korean ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    MSNBC is reporting that the ship is turning around and heading back north after being tracked. Sometimes you don't need to do anything stupid like fire on the ship.
    Excellent.

    Perhaps they had translators aboard watching this thread, and decided some of the suggestions were so scary they had to turn around?

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