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Obama spokesman says president believes Michael Jackson was a musical icon

I think it's apparent what condition he was afflicted by in that Stan Katz determined that he "[didn't] fit the profile of a pedophile" and was more akin to a "regressed ten year old" after a psychological examination.

There is no diagnosis that fits the profile of a "regressed 10 year old". Jackson had no developmental disabilities. If he did, he would be unable to function as he did. I didn't know the man and do not know what his actual symptoms were. However, Katz's determination seems fairly inconclusive and somewhat sensationalized. I would like to see the data before making a determination. I would imagine there was some sort of OCD going on, but again, it is hard to tell what really was happening.
 
There is no diagnosis that fits the profile of a "regressed 10 year old". Jackson had no developmental disabilities. If he did, he would be unable to function as he did. I didn't know the man and do not know what his actual symptoms were. However, Katz's determination seems fairly inconclusive and somewhat sensationalized. I would like to see the data before making a determination. I would imagine there was some sort of OCD going on, but again, it is hard to tell what really was happening.

If you didn't know his actual symptoms, it doesn't seem sound to declare that he "had no developmental disabilities." I don't believe that public perception of his activities is sufficient for determination of the manner in which he actually "functioned."
 
If you didn't know his actual symptoms, it doesn't seem sound to declare that he "had no developmental disabilities." I don't believe that public perception of his activities is sufficient for determination of the manner in which he actually "functioned."

I don't agree. His ability to function was certainly sufficient to not have a developmental disability. He lived independently; he was self-sufficient economically; he presented himself, appropriately, verbally, and responded, appropriately, verbally; he was able to perform appropriate self care. I've worked with plenty who have this diagnosis. Jackson's abilities far exceeded what someone with DD would be able to do. He had some sort of psychological ailment, but DD wasn't it.
 
However, as one perdicted, Obama has come out with a statement on the pedophilic freak.

That was uncalled for.

Note he still has not come out with any firm words other than "concern" and "appalled" for the massacre in Iran, or the struggle for freedom of the Iranian people.

He did later, but I am certain you know this. In your defense it was after your post.

I for one am no longer shocked at this administration and its lack or direction or its lack of American "pride" for a lack of a better word. Feckless, weak, and priorities all askew.

Yea because Michael Jackson dying is just another reason to attack the president politically for a comment that was true no less. :roll:
 
That was uncalled for.


I have my opinion on jackson. it stands.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson[/ame]

There is enough here for me to draw my own conclusion, thanks.


Actually what is uncalled for is the thousands being murdered in Iran and I can't turn a channel to hear about anything other than plasticman.





He did later, but I am certain you know this. In your defense it was after your post.

I acknowledge this post #3 i believe.


Yea because Michael Jackson dying is just another reason to attack the president politically for a comment that was true no less. :roll:


huh? I just think his priorities are screwy, or were screwy....
 
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huh? I just think his priorities are screwy, or were screwy....

It wasn't Obama setting up a press conference for MJ, it was a spokesman repeating what could very well have been an offhand comment by Obama. It's not like the president was taking any time of his own to comment on Jackson's death; that's why he has spokespeople. It can't be a screwy priority if it never was a priority in the first place.
 
It wasn't Obama setting up a press conference for MJ, it was a spokesman repeating what could very well have been an offhand comment by Obama. It's not like the president was taking any time of his own to comment on Jackson's death; that's why he has spokespeople. It can't be a screwy priority if it never was a priority in the first place.

Actually, he did take time to write the Jackson family a personal note.

President Barack Obama has written a note to Michael Jackson's family, a top White House adviser said today.

David Axelrod says Obama expressed his condolences to the Jacksons. He said Obama saw the pop star as a spectacular performer whose life had sad and tragic aspects.
President Reaches Out to Jackson Family | TMZ.com

It doesn't really matter to me. I would expect an American president to say something irt the passing of an American icon. Just pointing out that Obama did in fact take the time to make an expression.
 
I have my opinion on jackson. it stands.

1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is enough here for me to draw my own conclusion, thanks.

Since when did we become the policemen of the world? We are not going to send in troops or anything like that. So to the American people it is sad, but it is another sovereign nation, we have no business policing the world. And you say you are a libertarian?

I am sorry man as much as I agree with you most of the time, I see this as nothing but a cheap shot.

Actually what is uncalled for is the thousands being murdered in Iran and I can't turn a channel to hear about anything other than plasticman.

And this is Obama's fault how?

huh? I just think his priorities are screwy, or were screwy....

This is nothing to admonish the president over.
 
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However, as one perdicted, Obama has come out with a statement on the pedophilic freak.


Note he still has not come out with any firm words other than "concern" and "appalled" for the massacre in Iran, or the struggle for freedom of the Iranian people.


I for one am no longer shocked at this administration and its lack or direction or its lack of American "pride" for a lack of a better word. Feckless, weak, and priorities all askew.


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Since when did we become the policemen of the world? We are not going to send in troops or anything like that. So to the American people it is sad, but it is another sovereign nation, we have no business policing the world. And you say you are a libertarian?

Huh?

not sure where this came from. But yeah I am a small "L" libertarian. I don't agree with everything the Libertarian party lists as thier platform. I doubt you do as well.

I am sorry man as much as I agree with you most of the time, I see this as nothing but a cheap shot.


Cheap shot? I disagree. Don't you remember "jesus juice" and his whole interview about sleeping in the same bed as childeren? Come now, In police work they call that a "clue".

It's cool brother, we don't always have to agree. :thumbs:



And this is Obama's fault how?


It's not.


This is nothing to admonish the president over.


I started this thread to lament the prioritie shown by the president, the media, and others. Obama did come out with a statement and I brought that information to this thread in post #3 I believe.


But right now its sick out there. You can not turn on any media without hearin non stop jackson crap. It's pathetic.
 
I started this thread to lament the prioritie shown by the president, the media, and others.

I don't see how the president's mild and appropriate acknowledgement of MJ's death constitutes "priorities". Is there any topic on which you are not a political contrarian?
 
I don't see how the president's mild and appropriate acknowledgement of MJ's death constitutes "priorities". Is there any topic on which you are not a political contrarian?



Did you read my 2nd post in this thread, is there ever any topic you are in that you are not political FAIL?:lol:
 
Did you read my 2nd post in this thread, is there ever any topic you are in that you are not political FAIL?:lol:

I am quoting your most recent post, not your second post. And what is it with "FAIL". You are beginning to sound like a broken machine.
 
Michael Jackson is a music icon so what is the debate? :2wave:
 
Michael Jackson is a music icon so what is the debate? :2wave:

Some think that the pedophile stuff overshadows the musical icon stuff. Though, I honestly don't see them being in the same category. As a person, he was extremely messed up. As a musician and a performer, he kicked ass (only the 70's and early-mid 80's stuff imho).
 
Some think that the pedophile stuff overshadows the musical icon stuff. Though, I honestly don't see them being in the same category. As a person, he was extremely messed up. As a musician and a performer, he kicked ass (only the 70's and early-mid 80's stuff imho).
It's kind of a problem because a musician IS a person, after all.
 
It's kind of a problem because a musician IS a person, after all.

I never said he wasn't a person. I'm just saying that I don't tie his music to his personal life. His music was good, his personal life; not so much.
 
Cheap shot? I disagree. Don't you remember "jesus juice" and his whole interview about sleeping in the same bed as childeren? Come now, In police work they call that a "clue".

I started this thread to lament the prioritie shown by the president, the media, and others. Obama did come out with a statement and I brought that information to this thread in post #3 I believe.

But right now its sick out there. You can not turn on any media without hearin non stop jackson crap. It's pathetic.

Yes, Rev. Your thread IS a cheap shot.

You're trying to tie in politics with the death of a musical icon known and beloved the world over. Pathetic!

You claim bias in the media and attempt to equate the Iranian politican uprising and Pres. Obama's limited public denouncing of the Iranian people's political struggles w/the continued media coverage of said musical icon. Again, weak and pathetic.

If he were any other person in the musica and entertainment world, I'm sure media coverage would be so-so. Look at how Farrah Fawcett's death has been pushed to the back burner. She'll get her due and her burial will be very subdued compared to Michael's, but honestly Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett aren't anywhere close to being on the same level nationally or internationally. So, I expected media coverage on Michael's death to be as it is; the same thing happened when Elvis Presley and Princess Diana died. So, hearing his name or seeing images of him constantly in the news right now doesn't surprise me. What does is this thread and comments made by yourself and others like you who don't seem to have enough compassion to let a man die in peace thinking more of the positives he accomplished in his life than the negatives. I could see if this was, say...Charles Manson. But not with Michael Jackson. You said you didn't like Michael Jackson, the man, but somehow stating that you liked his music is suppose to excuse you from judging him? Lame...

We live in a country where the justice system is suppose to be fair. Michael Joseph Jackson had his day in court and was found innocent. Granted, there will be many who believed him to be guilty just as there were many (like myself) who believed OJ was guilty. But on OJ's death bed just as with Michael Jackson, I will choose to celebrate his many accomplishments in life rather than focus on alleged cruelties he may have committed. If he had been convicted of wrong doing, I'd probably do a mixture of saddness for the lost of a great world renouned entertainer, as well as speak out on the child molestation "conviction". But since he was never convicted, I choose to let that go. As many radio DJs have said, "(paraphrase)...you let that go; now is not the time for debate on that issue. Instead, now is the time to remember and reflect on how great a singer, song writer, vocal musician and renouned entertainer Michael Jackson was, of the many charities he contributed to, and the significance of his music that is ever-lasting".

It is utterly appauling that you (and others who have chosen to speak out more on the negative rather than the positive) would stoop so low as to attempt to use the death of a man - no matter your opinion of him - as a spring board to tie in your political agenda.

Disgraceful...classless...despicable.
 
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