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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I'm not sure why you think I'm advocating for this. I'm just pointing out that "they won't let me get the healthcare I want" isn't the best criticism.
    Under Obama's plan it is unlawful for the private sector to provide equivalent coverage as the government. Doesn't that validate some people's concerns regarding their healthcare options, or lack thereof?

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Under Obama's plan it is unlawful for the private sector to provide equivalent coverage as the government. Doesn't that validate some people's concerns regarding their healthcare options, or lack thereof?
    Serious question: Link? I hadn't heard this.
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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Under Obama's plan it is unlawful for the private sector to provide equivalent coverage as the government. Doesn't that validate some people's concerns regarding their healthcare options, or lack thereof?
    That law is the same in all nations with UHC, including Canada. The point is to make it so that the private sector is supplementary to the UHC system instead of it taking the full burden. In the U.S. this would mean a downsizing of the private sector, but insurance companies have already proven they cannot be trusted so I say this is their loss. People wouldn't be advocating for UHC if there weren't foul play happening.

    The law makes private insurance more useful and less redundant. People will still rely on private insurance for some of the things UHC doesn't cover. It will make insurance plans cheaper and less bureaucratic.

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    That law is the same in all nations with UHC, including Canada. The point is to make it so that the private sector is supplementary to the UHC system instead of it taking the full burden. In the U.S. this would mean a downsizing of the private sector, but insurance companies have already proven they cannot be trusted so I say this is their loss. People wouldn't be advocating for UHC if there weren't foul play happening.
    This is a fairly unfounded assumption.
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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Another possible theory: A public plan will by design attract those whose care is the most costly. The practical result of this might be a decrease in the average consumer cost on private plans, which could lead to a decrease in private plan cost.
    No.

    The goal of the Democrats is to destroy private health care for the masses and force more than three hundred million people into dependency on the federal government for treatment of the most common ailments, thereby attracting to the government the control of a full 14% of the US economy.

    That's always what the health care debate has been about, no matter how sickly sweet the words from the Left have been.

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    The goal of the Democrats is to destroy private health care for the masses and force more than three hundred million people into dependency on the federal government for treatment of the most common ailments, thereby attracting to the government the control of a full 14% of the US economy.

    That's always what the health care debate has been about, no matter how sickly sweet the words from the Left have been.

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    Oh damn, Scarecrow figured out our evil super sekret plan. Whatever will we do now?

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This is a fairly unfounded assumption.
    It's a perfectly founded statement, not even an assumption.

    The Democrats are pushing it, the Democrats are the party of goonions, rape, perjury, and corruption.

    That the Democrats are trying to gain control of 14% of the US economy is indicative of foul play, just because who's doing it.

    Naturally, if it was the Republicans pushing the scam, you Kool-Aid drinkers would be opposing it, on orders.

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    The goal of the Democrats is to destroy private health care for the masses and force more than three hundred million people into dependency on the federal government for treatment of the most common ailments, thereby attracting to the government the control of a full 14% of the US economy.

    That's always what the health care debate has been about, no matter how sickly sweet the words from the Left have been.

    Awake America, don't let them fit their chains upon your necks!
    Right.

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh damn, Scarecrow figured out our evil super sekret plan. Whatever will we do now?
    You should read "We The Living", since "1984" is too complex for you.

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    Re: Obama discusses deathbed measures

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's a perfectly founded statement, not even an assumption.

    The Democrats are pushing it, the Democrats are the party of goonions, rape, perjury, and corruption.

    That the Democrats are trying to gain control of 14% of the US economy is indicative of foul play, just because who's doing it.

    Naturally, if it was the Republicans pushing the scam, you Kool-Aid drinkers would be opposing it, on orders.
    Reread the post I was responding to. Hope that clears things up.
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