Can you disprove anything I said? No. You can't.Once again we have a lot of OPINION laced with a lot of “because you say so” with little substance or historic fact to back it all up.
This will be fun!Do some reading and become “informed” rather than sound like a childish know-it-all. Here are some facts:
So? The Finns just had higher morale at the time and were on the defense in good terrain. The Red Army had just experienced a major purge and lost many, many leaders. The Russians still got what they wanted and eventually beat Germany as well. Your original point had no relevancy whatsoever to begin with, but I appreciate your continued harping on a non-issue.“It took the Soviet troops three months to force the Finnish government to agree to Stalin's original demands. Although the world was now aware of Stalin's shrewdness in foreign affairs, Finland's small army of 200,000 men had exposed the Soviet Union's poorly trained and equipped army.”
What is your point here? Stalin was paranoid sociopath. He saw conspiracies behind every curtain and killed or imprisoned his own soldiers by the thousands. He didn't trust Churchill or FDR. Who didn't see that coming? Stalin's pleadings to Churchill and FDR were well in advance of his victories on the eastern front. The second front wasn't opened until after the Red Army had the Germans on the run and fighting defensive actions.“Stalin was still highly suspicious of Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt and was worried about them signing a peace agreement with Adolf Hitler. The foreign policies of the capitalist countries since the October Revolution had convinced Stalin that their main objective was the destruction of the communist system in the Soviet Union. Stalin was fully aware that if Britain and the USA withdrew from the war, the Red Army would have great difficulty in dealing with Germany on its own.
And Stalin had already broken the Axis advance and was steadily pushing westward before that promised 1944 offensive ever came into being.At Teheran, Stalin reminded Churchill and Roosevelt of a previous promise of landing troops in Western Europe in 1942. Later they postponed it to the spring of 1943. Stalin complained that it was now November and there was still no sign of an allied invasion of France. After lengthy discussions it was agreed that the Allies would mount a major offensive in the spring of 1944. “
Of course they struggled, until they started kicking the hell out of the Axis powers and pushing them back towards Germany. Well before D-Day occurred. Let me show you something.“Stalin's troops struggled to hold the Eastern front against the Nazi forces, and the Soviets began pleading for a British invasion of France immediately after the Nazi invasion in 1941. In 1942, Roosevelt unwisely promised the Soviets that the Allies would open the second front that autumn. Although Stalin only grumbled when the invasion was postponed until 1943, he exploded the following year when the invasion was postponed again until May of 1944. In retaliation, Stalin recalled his ambassadors from London and Washington and fears soon arose that the Soviets might seek a separate peace with Germany.”
Here is a map of German advances in 1941...
Now here is the Soviet counter offensive from 41 to 42...
Here is the continuation of the counter offensive from 42-43...
And here his the Soviet rolling the Germans back from 43-44...
Really, if you are going to cut and paste like this, offer the context to the argument you are trying to make.“From the Soviet viewpoint that would be only slightly less disastrous
than being defeated by Germany. Stalin wants the Germans defeated, but he is perfectly willing to make a separate peace with the Germans as long as that peace puts the Soviet Union back at its pre-German invasion borders. The Germans aren't willing to go along with that, partly because they don't think they need to, and partly because they don't trust the Soviets not to reenter the war after the Germans and the Western Allies have exhausted each other. The Russian people have suffered enough at German hands that the idea of a separate peace with the Germans would not be popular, but Stalin has the tools to make public opinion irrelevant.”
“If it looks like the western allies are going to get too much of the fruits of victory, some sort of short-term deal could be arranged with the Germans--either a tacit agreement to stop offensive operations for a while so the Germans can concentrate on the allies, or a separate peace. Either way, the Soviet Union needs victories, and it needs them now.”
And they beat the **** out of the Wermacht as evidenced by the maps above. Did or did not the Red Army begin a full on advance against the Germans and start driving them back west prior to D-Day? Yes or no? Please answer the question.No, they lost 20,000,000 men and were still well within Russia.
To be continued....