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Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

Tucker Case said:
I'm tired of the "Poor Michael didn't have a childhood" BS.

Boo ****ing hoo

If that mother ****er grew up in some thrid world country working in a sweat shop, I'd give him some sympathy. That would be not having a childhood. But he grew up in the lap of luxury.

Tough **** that the amazing life you had was attributed to the fact that you were astoundingly rich by age 12, but big ****ing deal. I don't ****ing care if that whiny little bitch didn't have a "normal" childhood. **** him and his ****ing "childhood".
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You seem to think money is everything but what matters is the people around you. His life was taken away from him as a child and he had no choice but to be the greatest. Child stars grow up scarred in most cases. Lindsey Lohan, brittney spears, etc....

Luxury is nice but his own father distorted his definition of what a family is and what it feels like to be truly loved.

Mike loved so greatly he sought out to do what hersey did and help hundreds of children.

When molestation charges came up it destroyed what he held dear his ability to show compassion and give to the less fortunate.

Think about it if mike was molesting children the people around him would have profited greatly for that story but that wasnt the case. Everyone near him said he was a loving father.

We look at his actions and say they arent normal. But everything Mike did the plastic surgery etc... Is very much normal today.

NO proof of molestation either means he was innocent or we as a people cannot protect our children from our own greed. I think innocent because if my child was indeed molested I would not only seek criminal charges but I also would have gotten millions in a civil trial.

OJ Simpson trial civil and criminal is very telling to me. He won his criminal case but lost everything in a civil trial. Mike didnt have that problem because he was innocent.

Also he was the greatest musical entertainer that ever lived and I hope he has found the peace, love, and acceptance he sought and sang for all his life.
 
thoughtprocess said:
You seem to think money is everything but what matters is the people around you. His life was taken away from him as a child and he had no choice but to be the greatest. Child stars grow up scarred in most cases. Lindsey Lohan, brittney spears, etc....

Luxury is nice but his own father distorted his definition of what a family is and what it feels like to be truly loved.

Mike loved so greatly he sought out to do what hersey did and help hundreds of children.

When molestation charges came up it destroyed what he held dear his ability to show compassion and give to the less fortunate.

Think about it if mike was molesting children the people around him would have profited greatly for that story but that wasnt the case. Everyone near him said he was a loving father.

We look at his actions and say they arent normal. But everything Mike did the plastic surgery etc... Is very much normal today.

NO proof of molestation either means he was innocent or we as a people cannot protect our children from our own greed. I think innocent because if my child was indeed molested I would not only seek criminal charges but I also would have gotten millions in a civil trial.

OJ Simpson trial civil and criminal is very telling to me. He won his criminal case but lost everything in a civil trial. Mike didnt have that problem because he was innocent.

Also he was the greatest musical entertainer that ever lived and I hope he has found the peace, love, and acceptance he sought and sang for all his life.
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Even if he didn't molest those children, he was still worthless, whiny piece of **** who has made the world a better place by simply being dead.

;)
 
Tucker Case said:
Even if he didn't molest those children, he was still worthless, whiny piece of **** who has made the world a better place by simply being dead.

;)
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Wow, that was harsh.

I doubt his children feel that way. I'm sure their world is devastated and that is enough to make his life worthwhile.
 
The single greatest entertainer was Evlis Presley. Stfu already.
 
Kali said:
Not one of his deeper songs but my fav is Don't Stop Til You Get Enough. :cool:
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Mine too...:)

I also like "Rock With You". His voice hits an awesome note on the chorus...

Don't forget "Man In the Mirror".
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Now this is just creepy.

Michael Jackson will die on June 25th
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Hmmmmm.....:thinking

Did a little googling and found this bit of info:


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Re: OT - Jackson's Death Predicted on Craig's List

Post by Guest on Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:48 am
I just made a test post to the Vancouver BC rants 'n raves section, which was where the MJ will die Thursday post was made.

I completed and sent it to the site, which took a minute or less, and then went back and edited it. The way it works is, you write the post, they send a link to your email, and when you click the link the first time the ad is posted. Then you can click the link again to go back in and edit and repost.

So yeah: not a seer. Just a tw.at who knows how to edit Craigslist rants 'n raves. :lol:


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thoughtprocess said:
NO proof of molestation either means he was innocent or we as a people cannot protect our children from our own greed. I think innocent because if my child was indeed molested I would not only seek criminal charges but I also would have gotten millions in a civil trial.
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Did anyone else catch this?
 
Caine said:
Did anyone else catch this?
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See I believe you are mistaken in your perception of my statement.

I include some factors in it that you may not see.

If someone wishes to take away life and love from my child then I wish to take it all from them. His freedom, his assets, his happiness.

You may think I would percieve the money to be my own but it would go straight to children who are affected by men or women like that as well as prevention. Money is nothing but for a purpose to me.

Also child molestors get away with light sentences all the time and become repeat offenders because they still have all the tools they need. A child rapist is known to get a mere year in jail.

Again OJ won his freedom but he lost everything in a civil trial. It was a slow and painful defeat for him. He had to resort to robbery. It was the best kind of torture for him.


Mike wanted 2 kids from every continent so to show a union of the world through love. That all kids are great kids no matter where they are from or what they look like and deserved to be loved.

Whos the pervert the one who sees nothing wrong for children to be immersed in his life so to help or the one who has the imagination to see all the things they think are happening.
 
Um, you do realize that Michael Jackson settled out of court (read: paid off) at least one (maybe two, I cannot remember) accusers with a very large, but undisclosed amount. The criteria you define to determine OJ's guilt and penance was similar to MJ's yet you still stand by his "innocence." MJ left a debt of over $400 million dollars. It would appear he suffered the same fate as Mr Simpson.
 
StandUpChuck said:
Um, you do realize that Michael Jackson settled out of court (read: paid off) at least one (maybe two, I cannot remember) accusers with a very large, but undisclosed amount. The criteria you define to determine OJ's guilt and penance was similar to MJ's yet you still stand by his "innocence." MJ left a debt of over $400 million dollars. It would appear he suffered the same fate as Mr Simpson.
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I agree with you, but it also doesn't really look that good for someone who is willing to drop their case as long as they get paid enough. It kind of hurts their credibility a bit in my eyes. Personally, if it were my kid I'd want the bastard to fry so that he couldn't do it again to someone else's kids.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I agree with you, but it also doesn't really look that good for someone who is willing to drop their case as long as they get paid enough. It kind of hurts their credibility a bit in my eyes. Personally, if it were my kid I'd want the bastard to fry so that he couldn't do it again to someone else's kids.
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100% agree. I would likely go a lot further than prosecution if someone were to do something so vile to my kid, but that's best left unsaid. I would not want their money unless I needed it to pay for intense therapy for my kid. It's still blood money, so I don't even think I could take it for that. I think the only possible reason there might be to settle out of court would be to protect your child from having to relive the nightmare by describing it in court under cross examination. Considering how widely publicized that trial was, the last thing I would want as a parent would be those disgusting details known throughout the world and attached to my innocent child. There's a lot to be said for confronting one's accuser, but that's not always the best way to heal.
 
What is gonna happen to these kids? :(
 
StandUpChuck said:
Um, you do realize that Michael Jackson settled out of court (read: paid off) at least one (maybe two, I cannot remember) accusers with a very large, but undisclosed amount. The criteria you define to determine OJ's guilt and penance was similar to MJ's yet you still stand by his "innocence." MJ left a debt of over $400 million dollars. It would appear he suffered the same fate as Mr Simpson.
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You do realize that MJ had a very good case in both trials and probably would've won, except that he was legally advised to pay the accusers off?
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I agree with you, but it also doesn't really look that good for someone who is willing to drop their case as long as they get paid enough. It kind of hurts their credibility a bit in my eyes. Personally, if it were my kid I'd want the bastard to fry so that he couldn't do it again to someone else's kids.
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:lol: altruism is very hard in the face of say 50 million dollars. :lol:
 
Smoke[MaxX] said:
You do realize that MJ had a very good case in both trials and probably would've won, except that he was legally advised to pay the accusers off?
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If he probably would have won, I doubt anyone would have "legally advised" him to pay out $20 million. (I found that amount for one of the accusers).

Are you saying he was advised or coerced? And if MJ was so hell bent on doing exactly what his lawyers told him to do, why on earth did he admit to having little boys in his bed in the Bashir interview? Did you see that disturbing piece of HIStory? While he's holding the 13 year old boy's hand (whose parents later brought charges against MJ), he retells the story of how the boy didn't want to sleep in his bed, and MJ said if he loved him, he would sleep there. In. His. Own. Words. So you're saying he couldn't say no to his advisors about shelling out $20 million, but he ignored their instruction to stop telling people he sleeps in the same bed as unrelated little boys? I don't buy it.
 
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StandUpChuck said:
If he probably would have won, I doubt anyone would have "legally advised" him to pay out $20 million. (I found that amount for one of the accusers).

Are you saying he was advised or coerced? And if MJ was so hell bent on doing exactly what his lawyers told him to do, why on earth did he admit to having little boys in his bed in the Bashir interview? Did you see that disturbing piece of HIStory? While he's holding the 13 year old boy's hand (whose parents later brought charges against MJ), he retells the story of how the boy didn't want to sleep in his bed, and MJ said if he loved him, he would sleep there. In. His. Own. Words. So you're saying he couldn't say no to his advisors about shelling out $20 million, but he ignored their instruction to stop telling people he sleeps in the same bed as unrelated little boys? I don't buy it.
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His insurance company paid out the monies - Michael was against it but insurance paid it out anyway.

Is this is the same 13 year old who retracted his story?
 
Lita456 said:
His insurance company paid out the monies - Michael was against it but insurance paid it out anyway.

Is this is the same 13 year old who retracted his story?
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Oooooohhhhhh. So he just stuck it to the insurance company. Then everyone else's rates went up. That's cool. [/sarcasm] I'd like to see proof that an insurance company actually shelled out 20 million bones. Considering ins co's demand proof for all claims, I'd say that probably solidifies Michael's guilt.

I'm not sure about someone recanting however, with the kid with cancer, he never wanted to prosecute. His dad was the one who heard his boy talking about he & Michael showing each other their penises. It's not uncommon for a child to try to take back the truth once they realize the firestorm. Kids tend to blame themselves when adults fail, so it's not unheard of for a molestation victim to go back and say, "Never mind. I was wrong." It also would not be unheard of for someone to "suddenly retract" after being paid $20 million. I suspect that's probably a condition of the huge payoff. Wouldn't you suspect that?
 
StandUpChuck said:
Oooooohhhhhh. So he just stuck it to the insurance company. Then everyone else's rates went up. That's cool. [/sarcasm] I'd like to see proof that an insurance company actually shelled out 20 million bones. Considering ins co's demand proof for all claims, I'd say that probably solidifies Michael's guilt.

I'm not sure about someone recanting however, with the kid with cancer, he never wanted to prosecute. His dad was the one who heard his boy talking about he & Michael showing each other their penises. It's not uncommon for a child to try to take back the truth once they realize the firestorm. Kids tend to blame themselves when adults fail, so it's not unheard of for a molestation victim to go back and say, "Never mind. I was wrong." It also would not be unheard of for someone to "suddenly retract" after being paid $20 million. I suspect that's probably a condition of the huge payoff. Wouldn't you suspect that?
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Michael didn't want to go that route but he did have to sign off on it, but in it, it states this no way means he's admitting he molested children.

The parents were money hungry, simple as that, imo. as was everyone else in Michael's life. Most definately, to shut them up and to sign a contract that they will never be able to incriminate him or anyone associated with him ever again.

I will have to post the youtube clip when I get home, can't do it from work....
 
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Lita456 said:
Michael didn't want to go that route but he did have to sign off on it,
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How do you know this?

And why would the insurance company pay out 20 million dollars (perhaps twice) if there was no proof he molested anyone?
 
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