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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'd say he had a pretty abnormal childhood. Actually, he didn't have one, which might explain his affinity for kids and acting like one himself.
    Well, when an adult insists he is Peter Pan, this is usually the case.
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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'd say he had a pretty abnormal childhood. Actually, he didn't have one, which might explain his affinity for kids and acting like one himself.
    Abnormal, sure. But people overcome much worse and don't end up with a break from reality the way Jackson did, ie: inappropriate (at best) relationships with children, facial mutilation, bizarre behaviors (wearing pajamas to court, dancing on cars), drug addictions that likely caused his death ... etc. MJ's training in childhood made him a star. There was something great that came out of it. He could realize his heart's desire. Not many people can say that. I'm sure his father was a jerk and probably hit him. My dad was similar. I'm scarred, but never broken. At some point, people move forward, tattered but forward. MJ had access to the best therapy in the world. I think he went way beyond having an abnormal childhood. He created an abnormal adulthood for himself (and Lord only knows the damage he did to his and other's children). At some point one has to stop blaming one's choices on what happened way in the past.
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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Abnormal, sure. But people overcome much worse and don't end up with a break from reality the way Jackson did, ie: inappropriate (at best) relationships with children, facial mutilation, bizarre behaviors (wearing pajamas to court, dancing on cars), drug addictions that likely caused his death ... etc. MJ's training in childhood made him a star. There was something great that came out of it. He could realize his heart's desire. Not many people can say that. I'm sure his father was a jerk and probably hit him. My dad was similar. I'm scarred, but never broken. At some point, people move forward, tattered but forward. MJ had access to the best therapy in the world. I think he went way beyond having an abnormal childhood. He created an abnormal adulthood for himself (and Lord only knows the damage he did to his and other's children). At some point one has to stop blaming one's choices on what happened way in the past.
    His childhood is certainly not an excuse for his life as an adult, I completely agree. Thing is, I doubt he recognized how really warped he was in the eye of other people. I remember in an interview he thought it was dumb not to want to sleep in the same bed as a child. Good grief!

    I will say something else, and it's not in any way a defense for how he acted and lived. But I will say, though, that living with celebrity is another thing to overcome. He said he was very isolated and lonely, and it's understandable. That in itself, can cause people to go nuts.
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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    How so?



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    now that he is dead, some unsavory truths may emerge....keep watching this drama unfold and there is no telling what may be found out...
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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Pahrump (Nevada) has also attracted a number of notable residents, including paranormal talk radio host Art Bell, and Michael Jackson, who purchased a home in the area in 2008, where he briefly had a home studio and home schooled his three children.[3] Notable businesses in the area include Front Sight Firearms Training Institute[citation needed] and Spring Mountain Motor Sports Ranch[citation needed], in addition to several legal brothels such as the Chicken Ranch and Sheri's Ranch.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahrump,_Nevada

    Art Bell mentioned this on Coast to Coast AM this past Friday night and said he never announced it before because he wanted to respect MJ's privacy.

    Decent of him.

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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    His childhood is certainly not an excuse for his life as an adult, I completely agree. Thing is, I doubt he recognized how really warped he was in the eye of other people. I remember in an interview he thought it was dumb not to want to sleep in the same bed as a child. Good grief!

    I will say something else, and it's not in any way a defense for how he acted and lived. But I will say, though, that living with celebrity is another thing to overcome. He said he was very isolated and lonely, and it's understandable. That in itself, can cause people to go nuts.
    True enough. I don't know what the truth is regarding the accusations against him, but I will say that there are plenty of people out there who advocate the Family Bed thing. Personally, I disagree with it. The parental bed and bedroom is a private place for them alone.

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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    True enough. I don't know what the truth is regarding the accusations against him, but I will say that there are plenty of people out there who advocate the Family Bed thing. Personally, I disagree with it. The parental bed and bedroom is a private place for them alone.
    It wasn't a family bed. He had other little boys sleep in his bed, not his kids.


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVcZRVOdf3w]YouTube - Michael Jackson - Living with Michael Jackson (Part 8/9)[/ame]

    BTW, there have never been any reports of little girls sleeping in his bed.

    Check out 4:00 ....
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    now that he is dead, some unsavory truths may emerge....keep watching this drama unfold and there is no telling what may be found out...
    Joe Jackson says he's doing "great." He seems more bent on pushing his son's legacy tonight than bothering to make funeral plans. What a tool.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt2GUNhS1bs]YouTube - BET Awards 2009 - Joe Jackson - CNN Interview on the Red Carpet[/ame]
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But...he made Thriller. Thriller.
    Big deal...
    People die every day; even that noise maker Mays died.
    jackson was just another "song" writer and dancer.
    He could not carry Hank Williams Sr used rubbers...

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    Re: Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    It wasn't a family bed. He had other little boys sleep in his bed, not his kids.


    YouTube - Michael Jackson - Living with Michael Jackson (Part 8/9)

    BTW, there have never been any reports of little girls sleeping in his bed.

    Check out 4:00 ....
    True. I should have made that distinction.

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