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    Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    An organization in the national spotlight recently for producing a documentary identifying several dozen potential terrorist training compounds in the U.S. has offended the sensibilities of Maine bureaucrats, who have fined the organization $4,000, alleging among other things that the group sent out mailings containing an “inflammatory anti-Muslim message.”

    The group in question, the Christian Action Network (CAN), received notice of the fines and the fundraising ban in a May 6 letter from Elaine Thibodeau of the State of Maine’s Department of Professional and Financial Regulation. Enclosed in the letter was a prepared consent agreement for CAN to sign agreeing to all of the state’s allegations, waiving all rights to appeal, and agreeing to pay the $4,000 fine. As part of the consent agreement, CAN is required to agree to all of the state’s allegations, including their assertion that their mailing amounted to hate speech.

    “These bogus charges and fines the State of Maine has imposed are nothing but an attempt to stifle our free speech and silence our organization from speaking out about the steady creep of radical Islam in America,” CAN president Martin Mawyer told Pajamas Media. “We fully intend to appeal the state’s penalties because if they successfully silence us here, we will quickly find that we won’t be able to speak out anywhere.”

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    Um o.k. even if this hate speech (which I don't see any evidence for) in the U.S. we don't have any damn hate speech laws and exercising ones right to free speech can only be abridged when there are direct calls to violence likely to bring about immediate action. They can take this case all the way to the SCOTUS and easily win.

    Someone ought to inform Maine state officials of The Brandenburg test - "Merely teaching or advocating unpopular ideas must be distinguished from teaching or advocating the duty, necessity, or propriety of acting on those beliefs. The right to speak and organize cannot be abridged no matter if the group's message and purpose are repugnant to American values (such as KKK speech). In order for government to intervene, the speaker must subjectively intend incitement (imminent evil), use words which are likely to produce action (imminent action), and openly encourage or urge incitement (suggesting, for example, it's a duty to commit a crime)."

    What the hell do they think this is? Canada?
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    Re: Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    Considering that your source, Pajamas Media, is rather biased I think I will wait until an objective news source pops up before I take this as gospel.

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    Re: Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um o.k. even if this hate speech (which I don't see any evidence for) in the U.S. we don't have any damn hate speech laws and exercising ones right to free speech can only be abridged when there are direct calls to violence likely to bring about immediate action. They can take this case all the way to the SCOTUS and easily win.

    Someone ought to inform Maine state officials of The Brandenburg test - "Merely teaching or advocating unpopular ideas must be distinguished from teaching or advocating the duty, necessity, or propriety of acting on those beliefs. The right to speak and organize cannot be abridged no matter if the group's message and purpose are repugnant to American values (such as KKK speech). In order for government to intervene, the speaker must subjectively intend incitement (imminent evil), use words which are likely to produce action (imminent action), and openly encourage or urge incitement (suggesting, for example, it's a duty to commit a crime)."

    What the hell do they think this is? Canada?


    I think if people want hate speech laws then they should move the **** out of the US and move to somewhere where thought control/hate speech laws are legal.
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    Re: Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think if people want hate speech laws then they should move the **** out of the US and move to somewhere where thought control/hate speech laws are legal.
    I hate hate speech and hate crime legislation.

    Sure hope they don't make a law against that.
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    Re: Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

    Did they threaten to kill anyone?
    Overthrow the government?
    Did they kill anyone?

    3xNo=Maine overstepped the Constitution.

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