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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think you need to strip search to find a gun.
    Ya don't, huh? Might wanna think again. There are compact autos out there that are just easy to conceal as a bottle of pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    A knife maybe.
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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I was curious how the ruling went. 8-1 with Thomas dissenting.
    Proving once again what an idiot Thomas is. The only thing shocking here is that he actually broke from Scalia.
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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    You haven't been involved in the public school system in a while have you?

    Because, their medical conditions do not trump the school. Their medications have to in most cases be given to the school nurse to "hold onto", and are administered / given to the student by the nurse.. in accordance with their "permission" from the administration of the school.
    True, though with a doctor's note, a student is allowed (at least here) to carry certain meds on their person, such as asthma inhalers.

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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    I would have suggested simply not cooperating with the school officials. The punishment for disobeying authority is likely better than getting strip searched.

    Good to see that the court did the right thing in the end. Thomas may be correct in that kids can get away with hiding things, but that is an acceptable price to pay.

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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I would have suggested simply not cooperating with the school officials. The punishment for disobeying authority is likely better than getting strip searched.

    Good to see that the court did the right thing in the end. Thomas may be correct in that kids can get away with hiding things, but that is an acceptable price to pay.
    I agree, but we're not 13, either. But, on the other hand, it would depend on who was conducting the search as to whether, or not I would be a willing participant
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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, we're not. An illegal search is an illegal search. It doesn't matter what they're searching for.
    Contrary to popular belief, the court did not say that schools cannot perform strip searches. All that they said was that in this scenario, where there was no reason to believe that the drug was hidden in the underwear and where the drug was not so powerful or in such large quantities as to be eminently dangerous, it was not justified.

    In so doing, they created another O'Connor-esque balancing test that creates different and opaque standards for whether or not schools are justified in searching "outer clothing" v. "inner clothing." Great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Thomas is a nazi retard.
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Proving once again what an idiot Thomas is. The only thing shocking here is that he actually broke from Scalia.
    I would really appreciate it if either one of you could explain what it is about Thomas's reasoning that you take issue with.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    What was Thomas's opinion? Why dissent on this?
    You can read it here:

    http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf

    Thomas's point is eminently reasonable. He argues that the standards that the court is creating are far too vague for the average school official to interpret them. This was an outcome driven analysis, and will do nothing to create clearer standards for the future. I said it when the case when up, and I'll say it again.

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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    How can they ban a prescription drug?
    Student has to hand them to the school nurse, usually.

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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Would all those who think this is a wonderful ruling feel the same way if they'd found a gun instead of a bottle of Ibuprofin?
    Better Example:

    How about if she had five dozen condoms?

    They'd applaud her.

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    Re: Top court rules strip search of teen was illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think you need to strip search to find a gun.
    Depends on how many boys she's done, doesn't it?

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