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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So ethics charges mounting up are just nothing you guys seem to think. Yet you do admit by nature of your response that since "clearer guidelines to be drawn up on the issue" that this "issue" as you call it was at least question action on her part. With all of these ethics charges mounting up it is just a matter of time that she is nailed.
    That's not what I said at all. Thanks for trying to misrepresent me along with moving the goal posts.

    Palin called for clearer guidelines as part of a generous agreement on her part to settle some of the charges. The travel expense guidelines were unclear but were enforced by the same organization that enforced for her predecessor and his predecessor and were never questioned until Palin was tapped for VP.

    And 15 ethics charges being dismissed means to me (and to the courts, I might add), not that Palin has been involved in any wrong-doing, but that Palin has had some pretty ridiculous and false ethics complaints against her.

    When she is found by the proper authorities to be guilty of any wrong-doing, then we have something to discuss.

    This is not a question of partisanship it is a question of right and wrong and Igloo is going something wrong.
    Who is this Igloo you speak of?

    Maybe she will run for POTUS and we just may see how many more clearer guidelines will need to be drawn as a result of her activity.
    Maybe pigs will fly or you will make a post that isn't a hyper-partisan, grossly emotional, mindless smear campaign and without childish monikers...with an intent to have a discussion instead of a junior high bitch fest.

    I'm not holding my breath for any of those scenarios, however.

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Wasn't it more that she was not caught violating laws or Alaska just failed to have a law to cover her actions.
    Do you even hear yourself. Basically you just said she's a bad person for not being caught violating laws that don't exist for her to violate.

    Seriously? Wow. That's whole new heights to blind rage we've never seen here before at DP. Congratulations. You, too, are now that guy.

    Yet with all of the charges against her Alaska will have create a mountain of "guiedlines" to cover her little escapades.
    What little "escapades" might those be? Please do tell.

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The really story here is whether or not palin derangement syndrome is fatal.
    I think the real story here is, what the hell is she doing giving money to the government that isnt theirs???

    I guess this means her ethics are actually better then what the status quo calls for?

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Wasn't it more that she was not caught violating laws or Alaska just failed to have a law to cover her actions.
    : **** I surrender. If we are gonna start saying people violated laws that dont exist, then freedom is totally lost.

    Do you even realize what you just said Sabr? :

    Yet with all of the charges against her Alaska will have create a mountain of "guiedlines" to cover her little escapades.
    Could you like, list all the charges against her please.

    You do realize b/c someone is charged with something doesnt mean they actually did it right?

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    : **** I surrender. If we are gonna start saying people violated laws that dont exist, then freedom is totally lost.

    Do you even realize what you just said Sabr? :



    Could you like, list all the charges against her please.

    You do realize b/c someone is charged with something doesnt mean they actually did it right?
    OK let's look at this:

    "An ethics complaint had alleged Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, but Palin agreed to reimburse the state for trips found to be of questionable state interest. "

    The trips were "found to be of questionable state interest. " In other words her kids did not serve a function for the state so she never should have charged the state for therir travel.

    "The board's investigator, Timothy Petumenos, said in his report that state rules give little guidance to determine ethical standards for travel by the governor's family. But he interpreted the law to require that the state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    ...... last phrase of this paragraph "state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    If your girl was on solid ground why did she reimburse the state for THEIR money.
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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    OK let's look at this:

    "An ethics complaint had alleged Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, but Palin agreed to reimburse the state for trips found to be of questionable state interest. "

    The trips were "found to be of questionable state interest. " In other words her kids did not serve a function for the state so she never should have charged the state for therir travel.

    "The board's investigator, Timothy Petumenos, said in his report that state rules give little guidance to determine ethical standards for travel by the governor's family. But he interpreted the law to require that the state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    ...... last phrase of this paragraph "state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    If your girl was on solid ground why did she reimburse the state for THEIR money.
    Umm, because she's a fair-minded person who never wanted to abuse her power.

    Let me also remind everyone that Murkowsky traveled with his family and was never questioned about it. Hell, he appointed his own daughter to the senate when a vacancy came open but never took any real flak for it.

    All I see here is a move by Palin to shore up regulations against future questions and conflicts. In doing so, she also agreed to show good faith by paying for anything that that new regulations would cover.

    Bottom line, no wrong-doing along with a show of good faith on her part. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good Palin bashing hootenanny.

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    I'm no Palin fan but there's no news here folks.

    Mountains out of molehills.

    Give the lady a break.

    Move along.

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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    OK let's look at this:

    "An ethics complaint had alleged Palin abused her power by charging the state when her children traveled with her. The Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, but Palin agreed to reimburse the state for trips found to be of questionable state interest. "

    The trips were "found to be of questionable state interest. " In other words her kids did not serve a function for the state so she never should have charged the state for therir travel.

    "The board's investigator, Timothy Petumenos, said in his report that state rules give little guidance to determine ethical standards for travel by the governor's family. But he interpreted the law to require that the state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    ...... last phrase of this paragraph "state pay only if the first family serves an important state interest. "

    If your girl was on solid ground why did she reimburse the state for THEIR money.
    Possibly to head off silly complaints by the brainless Palin haters in the world. I guess she didn't appreciate the depths to which the haters will go to try to make a non-story such as this into something it isn't.
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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not what I said at all. Thanks for trying to misrepresent me along with moving the goal posts.

    Palin called for clearer guidelines as part of a generous agreement on her part to settle some of the charges. The travel expense guidelines were unclear but were enforced by the same organization that enforced for her predecessor and his predecessor and were never questioned until Palin was tapped for VP.

    And 15 ethics charges being dismissed means to me (and to the courts, I might add), not that Palin has been involved in any wrong-doing, but that Palin has had some pretty ridiculous and false ethics complaints against her.

    When she is found by the proper authorities to be guilty of any wrong-doing, then we have something to discuss.



    Who is this Igloo you speak of?



    Maybe pigs will fly or you will make a post that isn't a hyper-partisan, grossly emotional, mindless smear campaign and without childish monikers...with an intent to have a discussion instead of a junior high bitch fest.

    I'm not holding my breath for any of those scenarios, however.
    Before you go off accusing me of emotionlism, partisanship, or childishment you should read your own posts. I do not have to rely on childish words to get my point accross " bitch fest".

    You also are showing your inability to respond with reason if all that you can do is make pointless accusations against me.

    As regarding the pile of charges those were not all dismissed in court.

    The accusation of partisanship cuts boths ways since it apapears that you are ready to dismiss any charge against her just because of your apparent partisanship.
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    Re: Palin reimburses Alaska $8K for 19 family trips

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Before you go off accusing me of emotionlism, partisanship, or childishment you should read your own posts. I do not have to rely on childish words to get my point accross " bitch fest".

    You also are showing your inability to respond with reason if all that you can do is make pointless accusations against me.

    As regarding the pile of charges those were not all dismissed in court.

    The accusation of partisanship cuts boths ways since it apapears that you are ready to dismiss any charge against her just because of your apparent partisanship.
    If you can't make the distinction between an attack on a post and an attack on you, personally, then you have arrived at the wrong place.

    And yeah, most of your posts are juvenile, substanceless, ranting bitchfests so far. If you want to change the reputation your posts have earned, then that is on you to do.

    Also, learn to read. I stated that 15 charges have been dismissed. Not all. But she still hasn't been convicted of any.

    And no, I have not dismissed every charge against her. I dismissed this one because the APB dismissed it and, gee I dunno DERRRRR, this one happens to be the one that you started a thread topic on.

    Care to try again?
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